methodology of choosing horses

[fmolf]

what type of handicapping method do you use the most?

1)speed

2)pace

3)trainer/form cycle

4)class

5)trip

6)body language


i use several methods in conjunction with one another but i am mainly a speed and form cycle player

[fmolf]

i apologize to any and all tote board handicappers and chartists i may have offended

[andymays]

Originally Posted by fmolf

what type of handicapping method do you use the most?

1)speed

2)pace

3)trainer/form cycle

4)class

5)trip

6)body language


i use several methods in conjunction with one another but i am mainly a speed and form cycle player

All of the above and include analysis of workouts sinced raced to look for any "wake up calls"! It takes me 6 to 8 hours to handicap a card properly. Taking shortcuts always bites me in the behind. As I get older the tougher it is to grind it out!

After all that you have to make the right choices when you make your bets (win,exacta,tri,super,p3,p4, .....)!

[fmolf]

Originally Posted by andymays

All of the above and include analysis of workouts sinced raced to look for any "wake up calls"! It takes me 6 to 8 hours to handicap a card properly. Taking shortcuts always bites me in the behind. As I get older the tougher it is to grind it out!

After all that you have to make the right choices when you make your bets (win,exacta,tri,super,p3,p4, .....)!

i use all of the above as well excepting trip handicapping...my main basis being speed and form cycle/trainer where do most of your plays come from?

[andymays]

Originally Posted by fmolf

i use all of the above as well excepting trip handicapping...my main basis being speed and form cycle/trainer where do most of your plays come from?

I concentrate on the California Tracks because I have all my life. Since synthetics my scores have decreased dramatically. Not sure it's worth investing the time anymore.

[fmolf]

Originally Posted by andymays

I concentrate on the California Tracks because I have all my life. Since synthetics my scores have decreased dramatically. Not sure it's worth investing the time anymore.

being an east coast guy i have never really followed calif..... seems to me since the poly came into play out there a lot of people on here are frustrated.I do not play poly races but would guess that pace plays less of a role than on dirt.....

[Overlay]

Perhaps I'm splitting semantic hairs with your thread title, but I use multiple weighted elements such as the ones you listed for evaluating or rating the horses in a race. However, for choosing which one(s) I'm going to bet, odds and wagering value have the last word for me.

[46zilzal]

SPEED, pace

[Tom]

All and then some, but ultimately, it comes down to pace most of the time.

[jasperson]

My first cut is speed. If a horse hasn't shown he has the speed to win this race the he is my first cut. After that I look and pace,class and race shape.

[JohnGalt1]

I voted the top 3 as my most important, but you left off my fourth important factor--condition.

If the fastest horse with all higher class races is entered, but is coming off a long layoff with only a 3f workout, it will probably not win. Unless it worked out off track, but I wouldn't know that and would not play it.

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by JohnGalt1

I voted the top 3 as my most important, but you left off my fourth important factor--condition.

If the fastest horse with all higher class races is entered, but is coming off a long layoff with only a 3f workout, it will probably not win. Unless it worked out off track, but I wouldn't know that and would not play it.

Pace reaction often tells of where in the form cycle a horse is placed.

[raybo]

Current form

Trainer intent and training patterns

Then: Pace analysis

And finally: Tote analysis

[LottaKash]

Originally Posted by raybo

Current form

Trainer intent and training patterns

Then: Pace analysis

And finally: Tote analysis

Count me in for that "Pecking" order, as well......

best.

[Tee]

A combination of,

race shape

form

physical appearance