Final 3/8

[dballard125]

Anyone have a list of the final 3/8 times for the major preps (SA, Wood, BG, Ark, etc)?

[Longshot]

Mo Donegal 35.65 Wood
Epicenter 36.32 LA Derby
Early Voting 36.41 Wood
Zandon 36.79 BlueGrass
Zozos 36.92 La Derby
Tiz the Bomb 37.06 Turfway
Taiba 37.17 Santa Anita
Tawny Port 37.50 Turfway
Messier 37.77 Santa Anita
Smile Happy 37.79 BlueGrass
Happy Jack 38.33 Santa Anita
Barber Road 39.16 Arkansas
Cyberknife 39.18 Arkansas
White Abarrio 39.72 Florida
Charge It 39.76 Florida
Un Ojo 39.87 Arkansas
Simplification 40.30 Florida

[dballard125]

Originally Posted by Longshot

Mo Donegal 35.65 Wood
Epicenter 36.32 LA Derby
Early Voting 36.41 Wood
Zandon 36.79 BlueGrass
Zozos 36.92 La Derby
Tiz the Bomb 37.06 Turfway
Taiba 37.17 Santa Anita
Tawny Port 37.50 Turfway
Messier 37.77 Santa Anita
Smile Happy 37.79 BlueGrass
Happy Jack 38.33 Santa Anita
Barber Road 39.16 Arkansas
Cyberknife 39.18 Arkansas
White Abarrio 39.72 Florida
Charge It 39.76 Florida
Un Ojo 39.87 Arkansas
Simplification 40.30 Florida

Thank you buddy

[dballard125]

Horse Last 1f Last 3f
Mo Donegal 11.9 35.5
Epicenter 12.1 36.3
Zandon 12.3 36.6
Zozos 12.3 37
Early Voting 12.4 36.3
Taiba 12.4 37.8
Tiz the Bomb 12.7 37
Barber Road 12.9 39.2
Smile Happy 13 37.8
Messier 13.1 37.8
Tawny Port 13.1 37.2
Cyberknife 13.2 39.2
Un Ojo 13.4 39.4
Ethereal Road 13.6 39.2
Morello 13.8 39.5
Charge It 13.9 39.7
In Due Time 13.9 38.7
White Abarrio 14.1 39.7
Crown Pride 14.5 41
Simplification 14.5 40.4

So according to Stanley's (RIP) checklist of Final 1/8 in 12.8 of less & Final 3/8 in 37.8 or less, the horses highlighted meet this criteria.

Hope I got that right.

[PalaceOfFortLarned]

Originally Posted by Longshot

Mo Donegal 35.65 Wood
Epicenter 36.32 LA Derby
Early Voting 36.41 Wood
Zandon 36.79 BlueGrass
Zozos 36.92 La Derby
Tiz the Bomb 37.06 Turfway
Taiba 37.17 Santa Anita
Tawny Port 37.50 Turfway
Messier 37.77 Santa Anita
Smile Happy 37.79 BlueGrass
Happy Jack 38.33 Santa Anita
Barber Road 39.16 Arkansas
Cyberknife 39.18 Arkansas
White Abarrio 39.72 Florida
Charge It 39.76 Florida
Un Ojo 39.87 Arkansas
Simplification 40.30 Florida

Thanks.

Like many, been following the final 3Fs of the 9F prep races for a while now. Looking back at '18, '19, and '20 (fall), there have only been 2 horses with a sub :36. Tiz the Law and Maximum Security. Not bad company for Mo Donegal.

Anyone recall one faster than :35.65?

Early Voting connections with Chad Brown possibly sitting this out is very interesting. Horse certainly projects like he could have the lead with 1 panel or so to go.

[BarchCapper]

Originally Posted by PalaceOfFortLarned

Early Voting connections with Chad Brown possibly sitting this out is very interesting. Horse certainly projects like he could have the lead with 1 panel or so to go.

With 1 panel to go? That seems to fit his name - but we may have to wait for the final returns to come in, and 2 out of the last 3 years we've had a recount.

[Curln22]

Solid information
TY

[Fightingirish51195]

Originally Posted by Longshot

Mo Donegal 35.65 Wood
Epicenter 36.32 LA Derby
Early Voting 36.41 Wood
Zandon 36.79 BlueGrass
Zozos 36.92 La Derby
Tiz the Bomb 37.06 Turfway
Taiba 37.17 Santa Anita
Tawny Port 37.50 Turfway
Messier 37.77 Santa Anita
Smile Happy 37.79 BlueGrass
Happy Jack 38.33 Santa Anita
Barber Road 39.16 Arkansas
Cyberknife 39.18 Arkansas
White Abarrio 39.72 Florida
Charge It 39.76 Florida
Un Ojo 39.87 Arkansas
Simplification 40.30 Florida

How were these calcualted. Just wondering because some of it seems different than trakus data

[Fightingirish51195]

Based on Stanley’s rules for the angle, I believe only a few horses fit it.

Nobody from the Arkansas derby or Florida derby qualify because the races were too slow.

Louisiana derby isn’t a big 5 prep.

Taiba, zandon, and mo donegal fit.

A bunch of horses in the wood finished behind mo donegal fast enough but I believe they lost to many lengths to qualify for the angle. Same with messier.

[Tom]

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[Longshot]

FightingIrish asked.
How were these calculated?. Just wondering because some of it seems different than trakus data

I have a computer program that calculates the final eight, final quarter and final three eights.

[f2tornado]

I usually just take the 9F-6F fractional time then make adjustments based on gain or loss of ground to the winner (1 length = 0.2 seconds). If the final 3/8 was timed at 38.0 seconds but the winner was 2.5 lengths behind the leader at the 6F pole, then subtract 0.5 seconds. If the horse was leading then got passed and finished 2.5 lengths back, then add 0.5 seconds.

[dballard125]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

I usually just take the 9F-6F fractional time then make adjustments based on gain or loss of ground to the winner (1 length = 0.2 seconds). If the final 3/8 was timed at 38.0 seconds but the winner was 2.5 lengths behind the leader at the 6F pole, then subtract 0.5 seconds. If the horse was leading then got passed and finished 2.5 lengths back, then add 0.5 seconds.

I just copy pasted from ExpressBets website

[CheckMark]

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...ons_Theory_123

On the same line as above

Epicenter 1f/3f E/P 7 102 101
Taiba 1f/3f E/P 6 102 111
Messier 3f E/P 8 103 108

Those horses meet all the criteria in article

[Fightingirish51195]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

I usually just take the 9F-6F fractional time then make adjustments based on gain or loss of ground to the winner (1 length = 0.2 seconds). If the final 3/8 was timed at 38.0 seconds but the winner was 2.5 lengths behind the leader at the 6F pole, then subtract 0.5 seconds. If the horse was leading then got passed and finished 2.5 lengths back, then add 0.5 seconds.

The wood, bluegrass, SAD, and FD can all be found on trakus