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03-09-2014, 08:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
The probability of an intruder breaking in your home and killing you is much greater than dying on a jetliner. I don't know what happened here, but with all the new technology and safeguards in place, it's still the safest place to be on the planet. As with anything of course, shit happens.
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Geez - it's always murderous intruders, or aviation disasters, with you guys.
Driving on a freeway, or crossing a city street, is a bigger danger to personal safety.
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03-09-2014, 08:27 PM
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
Geez - it's always murderous intruders, or aviation disasters, with you guys.
Driving on a freeway, or crossing a city street, is a bigger danger to personal safety.
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I'm personally most worried about getting struck by lightning in the kidneys.
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03-10-2014, 07:29 AM
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#48
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Location: New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Isn't is really inexcusable not to have that in place now, I mean it is 2014.
For all the flying I used to do, I will never set foot in an airplane ever again.
No way I will ever fly anywhere for any reason.
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Marshall Bennett is quite accurate in post #45 with his observations, also a live black box can do nothing for the passengers once dead. A plane cursing at 35000 feet is way safer than someone driving down the street in a car. This plane had a lot of fuel when it dropped of radar less than one hour into its flight. One idea is that if an on board device was used to destroy the plane, the time to do it would have been for maximum effect over a large city. This is why I think those with phony passports are unlikely involved. A Boeing 777 just does not drop off radar at 35000 feet, they will find it. Air travel inside the United States is the safest in the world Tom, I would not be afraid of flying if I was you.
Last edited by fast4522; 03-10-2014 at 07:35 AM.
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03-10-2014, 09:51 AM
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#49
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Several reports that passengers using stolen passports have been identified. But they refuse to say where they came from or who they are. Only that Interpol and FBI assisted
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03-10-2014, 12:16 PM
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#50
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Terrorism: 50/50
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03-10-2014, 12:23 PM
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Canadian since 51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Isn't is really inexcusable not to have that in place now, I mean it is 2014.
For all the flying I used to do, I will never set foot in an airplane ever again.
No way I will ever fly anywhere for any reason.
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I'll be going through LaGuardia in a couple of days on the way home from 2 weeks in Ft. Myers.
The ONLY thing that concerns me is the next Snow storm!
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03-10-2014, 02:14 PM
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To put it bluntly at this point, nobody knows crap.
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03-10-2014, 02:19 PM
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Has any one seen/heard anything about the search grid? Specifically, the possible maximum distance from the airport the plane could have traveled given the parameters of wind, weight, altitude, etc.?
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03-10-2014, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Goren
To put it bluntly at this point, nobody knows crap.
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someone always knows something, at this time no one is telling us,
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03-10-2014, 03:02 PM
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#56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
someone always knows something, at this time no one is telling us,
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Good point.
Just another demonstration that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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03-10-2014, 03:08 PM
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I checked their fleet and all 14 of their 777's are ER models with a range of 6000 miles. Haven't heard the question raised if the transponder is disabled whether intentionally or due to a malfunction how far the plane could stray undetected. Would have to dig deeper into the characteristics of the aircraft.
Seems if they're searching the correct area they'd found a trace of it by now.
Almost beginning to look as if it was more of a coordinated attempt to fly it elsewhere before destroying it. Whether it exploded at 35,000 ft. or hit the water and disintegrated, seems like floating debris would be present by now.
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03-10-2014, 03:11 PM
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Mention of the transponder reminds me that Clancy used hacking of the transponder as a key aspect of at least one of his stories.
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03-10-2014, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
I checked their fleet and all 14 of their 777's are ER models with a range of 6000 miles. Haven't heard the question raised if the transponder is disabled whether intentionally or due to a malfunction how far the plane could stray undetected. Would have to dig deeper into the characteristics of the aircraft.
Seems if they're searching the correct area they'd found a trace of it by now.
Almost beginning to look as if it was more of a coordinated attempt to fly it elsewhere before destroying it. Whether it exploded at 35,000 ft. or hit the water and disintegrated, seems like floating debris would be present by now.
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I was thinking the same thing about debris. I know that satellite imagery cannot see things underwater, but it seems to be that there would be a lot off floating debis in the form of luggage, clothes, papers...whatever floats, especially seat cushions. Where is it? Why has it not been spotted? The ocean is a big place, but with satellites, shipping traffic, and aerial searches, it has got to be found.
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03-10-2014, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfin66
I was thinking the same thing about debris. I know that satellite imagery cannot see things underwater, but it seems to be that there would be a lot off floating debis in the form of luggage, clothes, papers...whatever floats, especially seat cushions. Where is it? Why has it not been spotted? The ocean is a big place, but with satellites, shipping traffic, and aerial searches, it has got to be found.
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One answer would be that it crashed on land.
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