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Old 11-01-2017, 09:03 AM   #16
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I'm guessing we wont see Morris vs Smoltz tonight.
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Old 11-01-2017, 12:27 PM   #17
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People like home runs, when they are accomplished under "normal conditions". When the numbers are inflated due to PEDs, or juiced baseballs, or more recently "slick baseballs", it just is a black eye for the game. Nobody was fooled during the Steroid Era, and nobody believes the baseballs now are made the same way they were in 2014.
The problem with the statement “No one was fooled” is that it’s made after baseball has acknowledged they turned a blind eye to PED’s while benefitting from all the publicity surrounding player accomplishments during that era.

I seem to remember an awful lot of excitement when McGuire shattered the single season home run record and more when Bonds then broke that record 3 years later.

I think a whole lot of people were willingly fooled but have subsequently decided they never fell for any of it.

Kind of like the war in Iraq which had 70%+ support in the run up but nowadays, no one EVER thought it was a good idea.

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Old 11-01-2017, 01:46 PM   #18
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Plenty of people were fooled by slammin' Sammy Sosa.
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Old 11-01-2017, 02:54 PM   #19
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The problem with the statement “No one was fooled” is that it’s made after baseball has acknowledged they turned a blind eye to PED’s while benefitting from all the publicity surrounding player accomplishments during that era.

I seem to remember an awful lot of excitement when McGuire shattered the single season home run record and more when Bonds then broke that record 3 years later.

I think a whole lot of people were willingly fooled but have subsequently decided they never fell for any of it.

Kind of like the war in Iraq which had 70%+ support in the run up but nowadays, no one EVER thought it was a good idea.
I have been a life long Cub fan, but when 1998 season started, it was crystal clear Sosa was juicing. A 35 pound increase in an offseason? Extremely unlikely one could gain half that much muscle mass in 4 months without heavy steroid use. Bonds hat size increasing several sizes? Anyone familiar with weight training knows how difficult it is to gain muscle mass, and especially that quickly. Weight training was not new to MLB, but you'd see guys putting on 7-8 pounds of muscle in the offseason. Then we were seeing 20, 25 and even 35 pound gains. It just could not have happened without help.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:11 PM   #20
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I can maybe understand the Cubs wanting Q over Verlander because of the term of the contract. I'll never understand the Dodgers wanting Darvish over JV. Did they really wanna save a few bucks with that payroll? You get what you pay for.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:03 AM   #21
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Congrats to the Houston Astros for finally giving the Lone Star State a baseball chanpionship.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:46 AM   #23
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So happy for the Astros and their fans!

Six years ago my Rangers were one strike from winning it all in a game six, then saw it fade away. Long before then I had the mindset that losses in sporting events wouldn't be painful (betting horses for a living cured me of that, you can't let losses get to you... Esp losses that involve people you don't know, people who don't care about you or anyone else in the stands... You realize you control your own happiness, not others). Tonight was sweet. Congrats Houston.
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:25 AM   #24
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Been waiting 50 years for this day. ** ASTROS **
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:34 PM   #25
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Was predicted to happen 3 years ago by a S.I. writer.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-s...es-run-2017-10
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