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06-19-2008, 03:10 PM
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Which PP's do you use?
Question:
Which PP's do you use and why? I use DRF, because thats the one I fully understand. I have looked at the equibase stuff too.
Which is the best? I know its probably subjective, but can someone in the know tell me which is better and why? Or are they all pretty much the same? What does everyone think?
I only play Hollywood and Goldengate if it matters.
Thanks everyone
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06-19-2008, 03:55 PM
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I like brisnet the best. They add notes for each horse and all kinds of useful numbers on the last page like each horses e1/e2 etc
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06-19-2008, 07:47 PM
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i have used drf,trackmaster,bris.. They each have there own pros and cons.. I like the stats(angles) that bris gives you.. But i dont trust there pace and speed figures seems like horses bounce every other race. Trackmaster kinda the same as bris but there pace and speed figures are more reliable then bris.. but i like drf in use with my othere products i use.. its more of a personal preference in which to use.. I had the hardest time making the switch from drf to bris... but back with the drf..
love the northern cal tracks but where i pick my copy of the drf up the only offer the AM edition so i dont play there as much as i would like to
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06-19-2008, 07:50 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Look for past performances that let you filter: see all lines on off tracks, all line in sprints, turf or dirt routes. Allows better comparisons.
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06-19-2008, 07:53 PM
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I use the tsn procap data files..I print out my pps using the pp generator. I blend the workouts ( meaning the workouts are between races, not at the bottom), NO ML Odds. I only go 5 races back for each horse in all races except mdns. Any races over 180 days back are in grey ink..
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06-19-2008, 07:55 PM
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Make my own
Lots work but worth it.
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06-19-2008, 09:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Somewhere in the far east
I get my PP's from somewhere in the Far East. I believe they take the best of all the vendors and publish their own at a fraction of the cost.
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06-19-2008, 09:26 PM
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Location: Sierra Madre, California
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I've used DRF for over 40 years, but understand Bris are actually better.
I guess we stick with what we get used to.
I agree with 46Z......are you talking Formulater 46?
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06-19-2008, 09:50 PM
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DRF far superior to BRIS as far as speed and pace figures are concerned.
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06-19-2008, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iRNA
Lots work but worth it.
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Could you expound on your approach.
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06-19-2008, 10:13 PM
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Location: Boynton Beach, Florida
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I use DRF Formulator. I have always preferred the DRF layout and fonts. Dabbled with BRIS for awhile and they are very good but I just found them harder to read.
I never minded paying a couple of bucks for a card of PP's.
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06-19-2008, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fort Worth,Texas
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Used then all
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Originally Posted by SupersRFun
Question:
Which PP's do you use and why? I use DRF, because thats the one I fully understand. I have looked at the equibase stuff too.
Which is the best? I know its probably subjective, but can someone in the know tell me which is better and why? Or are they all pretty much the same? What does everyone think?
I only play Hollywood and Goldengate if it matters.
Thanks everyone
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I have used them all and wouldn't pick one over the other, but I use tsn because it is the cheapest.
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06-19-2008, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jasperson
I have used them all and wouldn't pick one over the other, but I use tsn because it is the cheapest.
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I started with Brisnet ultimate pps. Then I messed around with Brisnets pp generator. Then discoverd tsn and the package deal. I'll never go back to bris. It seems like the ultimates have a lot of info but it can be too much at times..I just try to make it simple. TSN works for me..
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06-19-2008, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Owatonna, MN
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I use Bris Ultimates because I'm in love with the track bias stats and other stuff on the last data page. It does worry me how often I hear people talking about how bad their pace figures are though.
Last edited by MNslappy; 06-19-2008 at 11:29 PM.
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06-19-2008, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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After 49 years of 'capping I've given up on all the various "forms". Don't even use a track program. Strickly a "Physicality" 'capper now. Have a greater strike rate at higher prices. Still losing but at a far lower level. Also, the hours of preparation & added costs have now been eliminated. Works best at live meets but also an effective strategy on simo's when you can get a reasonable look in the paddock. No look, no bet. This rule alone has saved me a considerable sum of money.
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