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Old 06-20-2008, 09:22 AM   #46
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Good point by Glen Beck this morning.
The libs keep whinning about the "failed energy policies."
Isn't not drilling a failed energy policy?

We don't drill ......Prices go up...we still don' t drill.....price keep going up
We take corn out of the food supply.....prices go up on gas AND food.


Hmmmmm. Seems the dems policies have all failed, too. And failed enough to even make FOOD more expensive.

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Old 06-20-2008, 11:05 AM   #47
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h'cap, some nice style. The old pitbull style of debate, eh.The King R, is correct. All one has to do is take any big problem over the yrs and see how the dims have torn dn every argument for reform and did virtually nothing but exacerbate the problem. They reject every possible solution the R'sput forth and just talk talk talk. Everything from SS to Oil. Seemsd like their idea is to just have the govt in charge of everything. Smacks of Communism to me pal.

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Old 06-20-2008, 11:06 AM   #48
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Beck=dunce and he got a posse

This states well the CURRENT issue of not just oil, but the other .......
You get what you ask for sometimes,even if you don't know what you were wanting.


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Old 06-20-2008, 11:14 AM   #49
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h'cap, some nice style. The old pitbull style of debate, eh. All one has to do is take any big problem over the yrs and see how the dims have torn dn every argument for reform and did virtually nothing but exacerbate the problem. They reject every possible solution the R'sput forth and just talk talk talk. Everything from SS to Oil. Seemsd like their idea is to just have the govt in charge of everything. Smacks of Communism to me pal.
lost agin, the gvt NOW is in charge of more than at anytime in the recent past.

check out Paulson speech today on expanded fed powers and certain institutions being too big to fail.
gvt must "intervene" to protect market stability.

Have he and the other Rs all become D now and you didn't notice?

You will never get it, they are all cut from the same cloth once elected, the only thing different is which hand they use to rip off the kool-aid drinkers.

This country has been socialist in the "avoidance of pain" dept. for many decades and it gets worse all the time.
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Old 06-20-2008, 03:00 PM   #50
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I'm with Ritchie and Glen Beck. Just for the record
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:33 PM   #51
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OBAMA has the answer

His government will provide you with a voucher for a RED Covered Wagon while he and his buddy Egore fly their jets.
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:38 PM   #52
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Ever Notice How

Lib/commies Zil and Hcap cannot take any criticism?

It would be fun if everyone here would make some remark about them - they would be up all night replying to all the responses!

They think that if they get in the last word then they are the winners - notice who else does this all the time: Iran's President, Chavez, Castro, Osama, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Durbin, Hcap, Zil - wonder what they all have in common?
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:37 PM   #53
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Lib/commies Zil and Hcap cannot take any criticism?

It would be fun if everyone here would make some remark about them - they would be up all night replying to all the responses!

They think that if they get in the last word then they are the winners - notice who else does this all the time: Iran's President, Chavez, Castro, Osama, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Durbin, Hcap, Zil - wonder what they all have in common?
It would also be fun if we simply asked you to explain your ability to tune into the Klingon home world.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:46 PM   #54
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Not in NJ

Getting ya at the pump don't have to be a pollytician livin in Washingtoon!

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20...motorists.html

The state was hitting 35% of the stations were cheating (350 of 1,000)
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:50 PM   #55
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Lib/commies Zil and Hcap cannot take any criticism?

It would be fun if everyone here would make some remark about them - they would be up all night replying to all the responses!

They think that if they get in the last word then they are the winners - notice who else does this all the time: Iran's President, Chavez, Castro, Osama, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Durbin, Hcap, Zil - wonder what they all have in common?
Got to agree with you there King - why us oil investors should be paid handsomely for the risks that we are taking in the marketplace with our excess capital.

Those Dim/Commies never get that we rich guys are floating their social programs. I can't wait for the govt to pull the plug on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - who the hell wants to keep pouring money into these black holes; we could be investing in stuff that grows our capital!

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Old 06-21-2008, 06:17 AM   #56
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Hi. dim/commie here. For youse guys, a special thank you. With kind regards to Darth cheney, his wonderfully secret energy group and of course George W Churchill. Fearless leedurs, one and all...

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/88...cd9f3f65a29181

"But the Administration's greatest contribution to the rising oil prices is its steady stream of threats to attack Iran if it does not back down on the nuclear issue. The Iranians have made it plain that they would retaliate by attempting to block the flow of Gulf oil and otherwise cause turmoil in the energy market. Most analysts assume, therefore, that an encounter will produce a global oil shortage and prices well over $200 per barrel. It is not surprising, then, that every threat by Bush/Cheney (or their counterparts in Israel) has triggered a sharp rise in prices. This is where speculators enter the picture. Believing that a US-Iranian clash is at least 50 percent likely, some investors are buying futures in oil at $140, $150 or more per barrel, thinking they'll make a killing if there's an attack and prices zoom over $200."
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:45 AM   #57
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one has to weigh the economic benefits of destroying the environment versus preserving the environment for future generations
it is said americans can't see past their nose
at present the world consumes 85 million barrels a day with a projectied increase of 5 millon barrels a day with each passing year. if we drill in alaska in 10 years we will get 5 million barrels a day from the alaska oil and world demand will be at 140 million barrels a day so the effect on price for gas will be insignificant, plus the fact we will have messed up a large tract of wilderness.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:13 PM   #58
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Got to agree with you there King - why us oil investors should be paid handsomely for the risks that we are taking in the marketplace with our excess capital.

Those Dim/Commies never get that we rich guys are floating their social programs. I can't wait for the govt to pull the plug on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - who the hell wants to keep pouring money into these black holes; we could be investing in stuff that grows our capital!

You got a little sarcasim fit going here or if you are serious you must have inherited money or be THE luckiest guy on earth to have any left.

You would otherwise understand that those program you are floating are the equivalent of paying protection money to the mob and I mean MOB.

You wouldn't last a week behind your gate if those stopped overnight.

Anytime one agrees with that Kingy dude, you are in(under?) dangerous water.


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Old 06-21-2008, 12:26 PM   #59
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one has to weigh the economic benefits of destroying the environment versus preserving the environment for future generations
it is said americans can't see past their nose
at present the world consumes 85 million barrels a day with a projectied increase of 5 millon barrels a day with each passing year. if we drill in alaska in 10 years we will get 5 million barrels a day from the alaska oil and world demand will be at 140 million barrels a day so the effect on price for gas will be insignificant, plus the fact we will have messed up a large tract of wilderness.
that's so much B.S...
the amount of space for drilling is akin to a postage stamp on a football field, besides...deer are tasty

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Old 06-21-2008, 12:32 PM   #60
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You got a little sarcasim fit going here or if you are serious you must have inherited money or be THE luckiest guy on earth to have any left.

You would otherwise understand that those program you are floating are the equivalent of paying protection money to the mob and I mean MOB.

You wouldn't last a week behind your gate if those stopped overnight.

Anytime one agrees with that Kingy dude, you are in(under?) dangerous water.

Luckiest guy on earth to have any left?

Not quite understanding the intent of your sentence. See it is actually very easy to be quite wealthy in the USofA.

And here is the secret - Spend less than you make and invest the rest. Takes time and yes, effort to accomplish! But it can be done.



I noticed that this year when doing our taxes (do them yourself and you have an understanding of the tax code and how much you are putting out there for the govt (all govt)), I noticed that we paid more in federal income taxes this year than I made for the entire year gross salary when I was 26 years old! A lot of hard work in between - but dim/commies (and a lot of Repukes) don't quite understand that you can do it when you focus in on what you want.

When my father asked the govt to keep the SS money as he thought it should go to people that could use it, he was ignored by the govt in Washingtoon. So he sends the money out to a list of charities on a rolling 12 month basis - he feels like he's contributing to what he wants to
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