Which handicapper are you spending the year with?

[DeoVolente]

Brad Thomas

[wiffleball whizz]

Originally Posted by DeoVolente

Brad Thomas

Wow great call......don't know how he was left off the list....hardest working guy in racing is what people call him

[JBmadera]

I would go with Ken Massa. Cramer would be interesting too.

[barshoe]

Jeff Platt and c.j

[JohnGalt1]

Since I base my handicapping method on both Howard Sartin and William L. Scott I would like them--if Mr. Scott was still living--to point out where I've misinterpreted their methods and where I could improve on their ideas.

I've always wondered if Bill and Scott Finley use any of their dad's ideas from his three books.

[lsosa54]

After that last PA outing weekend at Saratoga, I'm splitting my bankroll between PA and Daryl's (Zaf) friend Andy. I may need to stock up on the Zantac but I guarantee you we're making money.

[howardjim]

Originally Posted by proximity

in that spirit i was about to write in howard bradshaw.

Just for the record, it was Jim Bradshaw, a gentleman and ace in four-finger DRF pace handicapping. I use to watch him do it at the Woodlands in Kansas City, KS.

Vic Stauffer was the caller then, around '89.

Great weekend to all.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by cj

Doug is one of the best I know. He is a modern day handicapper. He attacks different types of races from different angles.

I hate Royal Delta in the Distaff, he loves her. That will make me take another look.

Royal Delta is the key to that race.

It's not unusual for Mott to back off his horses in the race prior to the "main event" to try to get a peak on the right day. I said that somewhere before the confrontation with Princess of Sylmar and again right after the race. Then Mott publicly said as much after the loss a few days later.

The thing is, I think you can make a reasonable case she's not quite as good this year as her peak last year anyway. So even if she was a tad short last time, that doesn't mean she's coming back with her peak of last year in the Distaff. She might run better and still lose.

Plus, I have a very minority opinion on her. IMO she has had way more than her fair share of perfect trips in her career. She had a few sitting just off the pace while her only major contenders were beating each other up, a couple sitting on the rail saving all the ground and then coming out into the stretch, a couple that were bias aided, and she wired or beat up a couple of really bad fields in her big figure wins. So IMO, she was never quite as good as some people were making her out to be to begin with.

I guess that sounds like I am really negative on her chances, but I'm not. She is VERY good on her best day and I understand Doug's probable thinking.

IMO she's just not quite a good as most people think and I think that's why her record is a little spotty.

[cj]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Royal Delta is the key to that race.

It's not unusual for Mott to back off his horses in the race prior to the "main event" to try to get a peak on the right day. I said that somewhere before the confrontation with Princess of Sylmar and again right after the race. Then Mott publicly said as much after the loss a few days later.

The thing is, I think you can make a reasonable case she's not quite as good this year as her peak last year anyway. So even if she was a tad short last time, that doesn't mean she's coming back with her peak of last year in the Distaff. She might run better and still lose.

Plus, I have a very minority opinion on her. IMO she has had way more than her fair share of perfect trips in her career. She had a few sitting just off the pace while her only major contenders were beating each other up, a couple sitting on the rail saving all the ground and then coming out into the stretch, a couple that were bias aided, and she wired or beat up a couple of really bad fields in her big figure wins. So IMO, she was never quite as good as some people were making her out to be to begin with.

I guess that sounds like I am really negative on her chances, but I'm not. She is VERY good on her best day and I understand Doug's probable thinking.

IMO she's just not quite a good as most people think and I think that's why her record is a little spotty.

My opinion is that I believe she probably wasn't fully cranked up for that last race, but I also don't believe she is as good as she has been. Further, she has to deal with Beholder early. She hasn't rated and won in a long time.

[BetHorses!]

Of the cappers listed who makes money at the end of the year betting?

[shouldacoulda]

I would spend the year with TLG. Maybe I could get on TV. I love his stinging sarcasm too

[TheEdge07]

Originally Posted by BetHorses!

Of the cappers listed who makes money at the end of the year betting?

Salvatore
CJ

[CincyHorseplayer]

Originally Posted by shouldacoulda

I would spend the year with TLG. Maybe I could get on TV. I love his stinging sarcasm too

I know this doesn't have to do with the thread but your Schopenhauer quote.I'm rereading for the first time in 22 years Norman Brown's Life Against Death:The Psychoanalytical Meaning of History.Really blew my hair back as an 18 yr old.Anyway in an early chapter talking about "What is the essence of man",he reels off how Plato and Aristotle defined the summum bonam for man as contemplation(juxtaposed with eros).Descartes for man as a thinking animal.Then Feuerbach and Marx a life of "practical sensuous activity".But in Schopenhauer "There marked a great seccession from Western Tradition of the really rather insane goal of mankind to become as contemplative as possible" by instilling the essence of man as the primacy of will.

What a concept!

Great quote by you.I never saw it.

[JimG]

Easy answer for me as a JCapper user. Jeff Platt. I hear the weather is nice in San Diego.

Jim

[shouldacoulda]

Thanks Cincy. I saw a quote by him on somebodies signature on this forum and looked him up. He had some great ones. I liked this one. It reminds me of television now a days.