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05-26-2012, 04:40 PM
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Belmont Race 8
What a crazy race or start I should say. 1 gate opened before the rest and he got caught up and the 2 horse was held back from starting. Maybe because of that? Not sure.
Then a couple minutes after the race ends and during the inquiry, the odds on the #4 horse clicks from 9-2 to 4-1? I've seen odd changes during a race but never minutes after.
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05-26-2012, 04:42 PM
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This is gonna ruffle some feathers.......whoa boy!
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05-26-2012, 04:43 PM
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The #2 was declared a non starter after the race finished. That had to account for the late (post race) odds change on the #5.
IMO the #1 should be a non starter as well. Let them keep the 3rd place cash but eliminate him from all betting consideration/payofs.
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05-26-2012, 04:47 PM
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Whoa...they DQ'd the #1 !?
Holy moly
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05-26-2012, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
The #2 was declared a non starter after the race finished. That had to account for the late (post race) odds change on the #5.
IMO the #1 should be a non starter as well. Let them keep the 3rd place cash but eliminate him from all betting consideration/payofs.
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#4 was the late change. Probably right, money changing from non start. Saw #1 was put last, didn't hear about the #2 till now. Crazy start to a race though, wow. #1 came on strong in the stretch and almost got second place. Shame he didn't get off good. He might've won.
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05-26-2012, 04:55 PM
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That's such a dumb dq
The 1 should be declared a non starter
It's not the connections an horses fault the gate opens early
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05-26-2012, 04:58 PM
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I had the winner and and on my exotics.........
I got no refunds?
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05-26-2012, 04:59 PM
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That's such a dumb dq
The 1 should be declared a non starter
It's not the connections an horses fault the gate opens early
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Yeah I think both should've been declared non starters. #1 had the gate open early and starter held him for a sec because of the early open.
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05-26-2012, 05:02 PM
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I have to see the start again, but how can you DQ a horse if the starter is holding him? Should the gate NOT have been opened seeing how this was happening?
I thought both should be non-starters, but need to see it again.
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05-26-2012, 05:05 PM
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By rule, if he breaks before the rest of the field he is a DQ, period.
Nevermind the fact that his "early break" was no advantage at all, but rules are rules i guess.
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05-26-2012, 05:12 PM
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Unfair too early or unfair too late
It's the same thing I think
It's unfair
The jockey might as well pulled the 1 up
As that's the best he could have done
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05-26-2012, 05:19 PM
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IMO, the odds should not change once the gates open. I know they say that money is still pouring in, but they can either refund it or keep taking it and just sit there and twirl on it. This is a grave injustice being imposed on customers on and off the track, therein and thereof.
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05-26-2012, 05:36 PM
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The 1 had a fair chance to start and violated a rule. Automatic DQ.
The 2 did not have a fair chance to start. Non starter.
There is nothing unfair about this. Odd things happen from time to time. That's why there are rules in place.
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05-26-2012, 05:45 PM
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Ok. I watched the start a number of times, and the #1 , IF it broke through at all , did so by 1/10 of a second or less.
The ruling was absurd and abusive to anyone that had that exotic. And the owner.
This after an earlier race, where the 2nd place fin, racked up the field at the start and there was no inquiry.
It might be a hard job, but they do it lousy.
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05-26-2012, 05:48 PM
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No the gates opened early which isn't supposed to happen whIch makes it unfair
To him and the other starters
No starter would be declared according to the 2 starters I know
Why are we punishing a horse for a gate malfunction
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