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06-23-2018, 10:38 AM
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You are more like a part of a group that is easy to loathe generally
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For pointing out the facts? Please show any evidence that tariffs ever helped the consumers or the country, other than protecting specific industries and their owners.
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06-23-2018, 10:57 AM
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At this point what difference does it make?
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06-23-2018, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
At this point what difference does it make?
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In other words, you have no proof to show that tariffs are not harmful to consumers and to the economy.
So when rape is inevitable, just lay back and try to enjoy it.
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06-23-2018, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
In other words, you have no proof to show that tariffs are not harmful to consumers and to the economy.
So when rape is inevitable, just lay back and try to enjoy it.
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You guys are drama queens, and as such get a equal amount of attention so be honest with yourself.
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06-23-2018, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
You guys are drama queens, and as such get a equal amount of attention so be honest with yourself.
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How is it being a drama queen to point out the facts in the face of the prevailing majority opinion?
Facts that in this particular case of tariffs, no one has even attempted to disprove?
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06-23-2018, 12:38 PM
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Because right now in this point of time not much is going on except emerging markets and those who are heavenly invested in them are being crushed. People like George Soros and his friends.
Everything is more about preliminary negations that some are forced to face, it is just the time to even out the score.
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06-23-2018, 01:09 PM
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20 percent tariff on cars imported from the European Union.
Looks like Germany not too happy.
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06-23-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
20 percent tariff on cars imported from the European Union.
Looks like Germany not too happy.
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Doubling down on stupid.
Has he actually stated what he wants from the EU?
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06-23-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Doubling down on stupid.
Has he actually stated what he wants from the EU?
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lets see what you say in July.
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06-23-2018, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
How is it being a drama queen to point out the facts in the face of the prevailing majority opinion?
Facts that in this particular case of tariffs, no one has even attempted to disprove?
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You are not pointing out FACTS. You are pointing out OPINIONS.
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06-23-2018, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
lets see what you say in July.
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He and Clocker have lead feet on this issue. I predict that even if every country we are targeting for fairer trade were to bend over, they would declare the tariffs as having failed to produce results because some guy in Omaha lost his job. I stopped reading their opinions on this issue a couple weeks ago when I discovered that they really don't want to discuss the issue, but preach it.
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06-23-2018, 05:39 PM
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You are not pointing out FACTS. You are pointing out OPINIONS.
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Here are some facts that I have posted here many times, and which have never been addressed by tariff supporters.
Fact: Tariffs on imports are paid by American consumers.
Fact: Trump's campaign people said that Trump's tariffs would increase the cost of living for the average American by up to 15%.
Fact: Tariffs on imports allow American competitors to raise their prices. This has already happened to steel, aluminum, and lumber.
Fact: Trump's tariffs on Canadian lumber have already raised the cost of an average new home by $6000.
Fact: Posters here have said that they have already seen increases of up to 30% for American made steel and aluminum, with dealers blaming it on tariffs.
Fact: Tariffs on solar panels, the great majority of which are imported, have reduced demand and already resulted in significant lay-offs of installers.
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06-23-2018, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
He and Clocker have lead feet on this issue. I predict that even if every country we are targeting for fairer trade were to bend over, they would declare the tariffs as having failed to produce results because some guy in Omaha lost his job. I stopped reading their opinions on this issue a couple weeks ago when I discovered that they really don't want to discuss the issue, but preach it.
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Discuss what?
You last point was on dairy which i immediately countered and you scampered off again.
If it was a big deal we should have signed TPP which forced open the Canadian market on dairy.
It wasn't. It was a red herring. An anecdote which is all any of you have. Except now some previous supporters of the tariff agenda are now posting anecdotes supporting our opinion from the onset.
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06-23-2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Here are some facts that I have posted here many times, and which have never been addressed by tariff supporters.
Fact: Tariffs on imports are paid by American consumers.
Fact: Trump's campaign people said that Trump's tariffs would increase the cost of living for the average American by up to 15%.
Fact: Tariffs on imports allow American competitors to raise their prices. This has already happened to steel, aluminum, and lumber.
Fact: Trump's tariffs on Canadian lumber have already raised the cost of an average new home by $6000.
Fact: Posters here have said that they have already seen increases of up to 30% for American made steel and aluminum, with dealers blaming it on tariffs.
Fact: Tariffs on solar panels, the great majority of which are imported, have reduced demand and already resulted in significant lay-offs of installers.
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Temporary adjustments to shit trade.
I guess we should just sit here while our trade partners tariff our exports upwards to 50%?
Been working for years, so why rattle the chain, amirite?
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06-23-2018, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Temporary adjustments to shit trade.
I guess we should just sit here while our trade partners tariff our exports upwards to 50%?
Been working for years, so why rattle the chain, amirite?
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Didn't notice any facts in that post.
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