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11-05-2010, 07:49 PM
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any reason why HRtv did not show the classic? unbelievable!
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11-05-2010, 07:49 PM
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Should've scratched the horse. They knew she was not up to par BEFORE she got to the gate.
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11-05-2010, 07:53 PM
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Had she won would everyone be saying the same thing ? Damned if ya do damned if ya don't . Big race , big money , Breeder's Cup , I don't blame anyone and the horse seems ok . Believe any other jockey would have acted the same .
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11-05-2010, 07:55 PM
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Life At Ten - An Absolute Sham
CRIMINAL!!!!
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11-05-2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Had she won would everyone be saying the same thing ? Damned if ya do damned if ya don't . Big race , big money , Breeder's Cup , I don't blame anyone and the horse seems ok . Believe any other jockey would have acted the same .
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She didn't win. Not even close. She didn't even run from the start of the race. She backed up right from the start. Many people said before the race she didn't look right, including the jock. Plus there was a vet there. Wasn't all on Johnny V. Clearly didn't seem right.
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11-05-2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Had she won would everyone be saying the same thing ? Damned if ya do damned if ya don't . Big race , big money , Breeder's Cup , I don't blame anyone and the horse seems ok . Believe any other jockey would have acted the same .
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Yeah, everyone is just ducky, except the CUSTOMERS.
No wonder most people ignore racing.
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11-05-2010, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Yeah, everyone is just ducky, except the CUSTOMERS.
No wonder most people ignore racing.
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Anyone watching the coverage had to cancel their wagers.
She was my best bet of the day and I backed right out as soon as I saw how concerned JRV was.
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11-05-2010, 08:01 PM
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This is not racing putting it best foot forward. Pace is right it does happen a lot. It is one the reasons racing is in trouble, but certainly not the only one.
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11-05-2010, 08:03 PM
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No one said squat on the live BC internet feed but it was obvious something was wrong as soon as she left the gate. The comment was that LaT did not cross the wire and was more or less pulled up.
So please give the scoop for those of us watching on a puter at work with no access to HRTV or ESPN! Jock's comments??? What?
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11-05-2010, 08:07 PM
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No one said squat on the live BC internet feed but it was obvious something was wrong as soon as she left the gate. The comment was that LaT did not cross the wire and was more or less pulled up.
So please give the scoop for those of us watching on a puter at work with no access to HRTV or ESPN! Jock's comments??? What?
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Jerry Bailey on ESPN was talking to JRV and he was concerned before the race that she was acting very funny.
She warmed up very poor and based on the comments should have been scratched.
They interviewed Pletcher after and he said that she was acting funny in the paddock and that he thinks she had a reaction to her Lasix.
I was thinking that she was tying up??? Could be a 100 things....mares are notorious for things going wrong without warning.
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11-05-2010, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rackon
So please give the scoop for those of us watching on a puter at work with no access to HRTV or ESPN! Jock's comments??? What?
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JV basically said to the national TV audience talking to Jerry Bailey in the warm-up that his horse was lame/off/no good......after a few minutes they went back to him heading to the gate and Jerry asked him if she was any better and he basically said no, she's a pitchfork.
Last edited by InsideThePylons-MW; 11-05-2010 at 08:09 PM.
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11-05-2010, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by InsideThePylons-MW
JV basically said to the national TV audience talking to Jerry Bailey in the warm-up that his horse was lame/off/no good......after a few minutes they went back to him heading to the gate and Jerry asked him if she was any better and he basically said no, she's a pitchfork.
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Yikes.
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11-05-2010, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You bet your money and you take your chances...only this time, we got a rare insight into what probably happens often at tracks everywhere.
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Very true Pace.
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11-05-2010, 08:19 PM
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Don't forget this; both of Pletchers trainees ran clunkers in this race. I wagered on the other and was dismayed to see a total lack of purpose displayed. When she broke sharply, she was never given a chance to fashion a front-running effort, which basically ruined her chances, and she soon lost interest altogether.
go figure.
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11-05-2010, 08:19 PM
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Interesting stuff guys.
Just out of interest. Did Todd make comment on his other runner. The one that got lead and then looked like it was hit head on by a 18 wheeler??
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