Shattered Dreams, or When reality attacks! - Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com

Tom · 05-08-2018, 10:55 AM

Now that the foolish dreams of some have been dashed, who is likely to face reality and find a path to a race horse career in another setting than the TC?

Gr3 races, open stakes for 3yos......one turn races...who might go on to a good career in the coming months and be worth some bets?

Thoughts?

MadVindication · 05-08-2018, 11:07 AM

Flameaway.

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In fact, Casse said Flameaway will now be pointed towards the $1-million Queen’s Plate on June 30 at Woodbine Racetrack. In February, Flameaway was installed as the 5-1 Winterbook second choice behind Telekinesis (4-1) — another Casse trainee.

https://www.terracestandard.com/spor...ing-derby-run/

GMB@BP · 05-08-2018, 11:08 AM

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Flameaway.

https://www.terracestandard.com/spor...ing-derby-run/

he fits a restricted race well...so cant disagree there.

JustRalph · 05-08-2018, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Now that the foolish dreams of some have been dashed, who is likely to face reality and find a path to a race horse career in another setting than the TC?

Gr3 races, open stakes for 3yos......one turn races...who might go on to a good career in the coming months and be worth some bets?

Thoughts?

Audible

GMB@BP · 05-08-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Now that the foolish dreams of some have been dashed, who is likely to face reality and find a path to a race horse career in another setting than the TC?

Gr3 races, open stakes for 3yos......one turn races...who might go on to a good career in the coming months and be worth some bets?

Thoughts?

I think Instilled Regard is a horse that Hollendorfer will be able to find his level and could end up pretty decent.

My Boy Jack looks like a tremendous 1 run late sprinter or miler to me.

GMB@BP · 05-08-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRalph

Audible

Audible was heavily bet in this race, doesnt he already kinda belong and does not need to find his level?

Robert Fischer · 05-08-2018, 11:30 AM

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Flameaway.

https://www.terracestandard.com/spor...ing-derby-run/

good answer. you win.

Can't think of better answers... Enticed could be a solid G3 and some of the softer NY(circuit, not 'ny-bred') stakes, but don't we kind of expect him to be cannon fodder in the Met Mile or something? He's got that high-knee action but he's usually a solid horse.

Solomini is the type that possibly can be a poor-man's Hoppertunity, if health favors him and he finds his groove.

Combatant is an OK horse. He doesn't want 10 furlongs, and he's also managed to draw post 20 or the equivalent in 3 or 4 straight races... Asmussen seems to be involved in a variety of levels of racing, and you'd think he could find a niche for this one.

GMB@BP · 05-08-2018, 11:36 AM

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good answer. you win.

Can't think of better answers... Enticed could be a solid G3 and some of the softer NY(circuit, not 'ny-bred') stakes, but don't we kind of expect him to be cannon fodder in the Met Mile or something? He's got that high-knee action but he's usually a solid horse.

Solomini is the type that possibly can be a poor-man's Hoppertunity, if health favors him and he finds his groove.

Combatant is an OK horse. He doesn't want 10 furlongs, and he's also managed to draw post 20 or the equivalent in 3 or 4 straight races... Asmussen seems to be involved in a variety of levels of racing, and you'd think he could find a niche for this one.

Combatant was given one of the stranger rides as well.

letswastemoney · 05-08-2018, 11:41 AM

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Audible

What. I like how Audible ran. He would probably finish Top 3 in the Belmont Stakes.

letswastemoney · 05-08-2018, 11:48 AM

I actually don't think Flameaway ran so poorly either, if pace is factored in. In a "normal" route around 1 mile to 1 1/8, he will be a contender again.

MadVindication · 05-08-2018, 11:49 AM

I would like to see Promises Fulfilled run at short distances, maybe sprints to 7f.

Haven't heard anything about him or Free Drop aside from Free Drop already having a retirement residence awaiting.

Obviously Bravazo will be running and I believe still steadily improving if he has the fortitude. I think he's far from peaking. And iirc he's not a late foal date.

Tom · 05-08-2018, 11:58 AM

I'm thinking PF is a prime candidate to run a big one on the lead soon. He did a lot of running in the race and will probably be huge odds.

I'm hoping PA selects him!
He comes up with these big $$$ this time every year.

JustRalph · 05-08-2018, 12:03 PM

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Audible was heavily bet in this race, doesnt he already kinda belong and does not need to find his level?

Point taken. Really doesn’t fit Tom’s inquiry, but I think he’s better than he showed......I think with a smaller field he gets much closer to Justify

GMB@BP · 05-08-2018, 12:10 PM

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Point taken. Really doesn’t fit Tom’s inquiry, but I think he’s better than he showed......I think with a smaller field he gets much closer to Justify

Yea, maybe

I know he waited but that duck and open hole on the rail certainly helped him quite a bit.

What I do like, and makes me feel like he is a superior race horse to say Hoffberg who has raced with him twice, is that he can make turn moves, where Hoffberg is basically run even pace picking up where others are falling off.

MadVindication · 05-08-2018, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

I'm thinking PF is a prime candidate to run a big one on the lead soon. He did a lot of running in the race and will probably be huge odds.

I'm hoping PA selects him!
He comes up with these big $$$ this time every year.

He is a May foal so another tick in the box that his time is comin'. I read PF's bio and it's a story about him being sick for a time as a foal so he's kind of a cute runt of the litter story.