TVG=No Belmont Races on Opening Day

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by sonnyp

any horseplayer who continues to be a pawn in this chirade by patronizing T V G and it's band of idiotic on air personalities and gestapo management should no longer complain about their abuse since it is now crystal clear where the only commitment by T V G lies.....to itself.

join the ranks of those who bill finley labeled as stupid.

gestapo? Get some perspective please...

What's next? A 9/11 reference?

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by turfnsport

Allevato of TVG from bloodhorse: "We only have 60 minutes in an hour. It wouldn’t make sense to show 16 or 18 races in an hour. We wouldn’t be doing a service to anyone by doing that.”

Tell that to the people who are now paying Dishnet an extra fee to ditch the talking heads and get nothing but races,,,,,,,,all the time........

TVG should be very afraid of this business model and relationship with Dishnet

Btw, Let me translate the Statement from Allevato for you

" We wouldn't be driving enough traffic to our ADW"

[sonnyp]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

gestapo? Get some perspective please...

What's next? A 9/11 reference?

ya, gestapo....you know.....thugs. term is used all the time for behavior such as theirs.

only you could equate anything said to a reference to 9/11. nice job

[thespaah]

TVG made a decsion based on exclusvity.
Because NYRA will not adree to become an exclusive TVG entity, TVG has leverage.
IMO this is a shot across NYRA's bow serving as a warning to NYRA that it needs to play ball with TVG.
As far as I am concerned this is one more nail in my personal TVG coffin.
TVG may have made a decision here. TVG eff'd up today.

[igiveupregistering]

I signed up for hrtv...9.99/month on internet to watch NYRA.
I'm a ny resident and nyra signal is blocked out for NYRA and ADW's ny residents.
. Any NY-OTB shows the ny races on the internet...capital otb...catskill otb... etc. IF you use their adw. Go figure how NYSWB gets away with this restraint of trade.

I already have TS, Youbet and NYRAone accounts to watch NYRA program.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by sonnyp

ya, gestapo....you know.....thugs. term is used all the time for behavior such as theirs.

only you could equate anything said to a reference to 9/11. nice job

I wasn't equating anything. A reference to 9/11 would be the logical next step for anyone witless enough to link TVG's actions to "the secret state police in Nazi Germany; known for its terrorist methods" which is the first definition found for the word gestapo.

Maybe now you will realize how incredibly out of bounds your comment is...

I know...it's all about being clever and trying to shock us...what it really is is tasteless and boring.

[Marshall Bennett]

And the beat goes on. Someone told us in another thread to stay on topic. Suppose it depends on who you are anymore.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

And the beat goes on. Someone told us in another thread to stay on topic. Suppose it depends on who you are anymore.

Whatever dude. Try and see how JUST MAYBE there are differences between situations. I know it's subtle, but I think you can handle it...

[PurplePower]

TVG did the same thing with Sam Houston in early 2000's when GM Bob Bork would not sign the exclusive agreement with them. With the same number of tracks available they could no longer find a place (between harness racing from somewhere and TB races from Mountaineer). Rather than consider how to maximize the interest in the fans so that fans want to watch their shows they have chosen the exclusivity model to force fans to watch their presentations.
Personally, I liked some of the "talking". I think they made a mistake when they went "more formal", shutting down some of the type of banter that horse players actually do and requiring "heads" to be in suit and tie and more like a "news cast". (I rarely watch them any more as I prefer the video interface on Twin Spires.)

One of their best shows was "The Works", but instead of continuing and improving that program (and the fan interest), they stopped when they no longer had exclusive of CD. They could have used that to build a fan base, even if they did not get to show CD at all. I'm not in the TV business obviously, but just seemed to me like it would have been a good thing to do.

[OTM Al]

Originally Posted by Tom

No offense, Al, but who cares why?
The bettors, as opposed to complainers, were set to bet and watch races TODAY. Nothing else should matter to them. Opening day was not a secret - both NYRA and TVG knew it was coming, so I don't care who dropped the ball, HRTV did not.

I don't give a crap why my soup is cold, I find another diner.

As I suggested, switch to HRTV. Or, watch one race in 30 minutes at the lesser network. (should there be Surgeon Genreal warning on that much talking head?)

What I don't get is why so many people line up to defend TVG for being incompetent and willing to take whatever crumbs they throw out?

Why is a business decision. It's a tv channel yet the way everyone talks about it it's the be all and end all. Frankly I thought it was a bad decision as Belmont had a pretty full card today and probably did close to what all their exclusive partners did combined. They regularly don't show tracks they can. Today it was Belmont. In Nyc at least we can flip on the OTB channel. Everyone else can watch on their account wagering service. So what's the big deal.

If I could get hrtv I would and I'd watch it too. Wish I could have ATR from England as well. TVG supplies a product. Buy it or don't, but I'm tired of people whining like this network owes them something. If you don't like it, and I agree totally with Tom on this, don't watch, but it seems to me that everyone around here that claims to hate it, watches more than I do.

[Relwob Owner]

Originally Posted by OTM Al

Why is a business decision. It's a tv channel yet the way everyone talks about it it's the be all and end all. Frankly I thought it was a bad decision as Belmont had a pretty full card today and probably did close to what all their exclusive partners did combined. They regularly don't show tracks they can. Today it was Belmont. In Nyc at least we can flip on the OTB channel. Everyone else can watch on their account wagering service. So what's the big deal.

If I could get hrtv I would and I'd watch it too. Wish I could have ATR from England as well. TVG supplies a product. Buy it or don't, but I'm tired of people whining like this network owes them something. If you don't like it, and I agree totally with Tom on this, don't watch, but it seems to me that everyone around here that claims to hate it, watches more than I do.

Nice post and I couldnt agree more.......like you say, TVG is a business and they have to make business and financial decisions in order to stay on the air. Every business around makes decisions in their own best interest and TVG is no different.

TVG is in a very tough position where they have to try and have people with personality on the air who can possibly bring in new people and combine them with those with extensive knowledge to satisfy the more hard core fans. Rudulph takes a lot of heat on here but when I have it on and non horse racing people are around, they usually like him and have their interest peaked a bit.

I am just glad that even with the decline in racing and its popularity, they are still on the air.

[redshift1]

[QUOTE=sonnyp]ya, gestapo....you know.....thugs. term is used all the time for behavior such as theirs.


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[jelly]

TVG chose not to show the first 7 races in protest to NewYork's high takeout.

[David-LV]

Originally Posted by redshift1

No question TVG is all wiggly since they lost their NYRA exclusivity.

From DRF:


TVG officials hope to be able to show the last three races from Belmont Park today either live or on tape delay.

Tony Allevato, the executive producer of TVG, said that due to a contractual agreement to show today's 13-race card from Delaware Park --- as well as exclusive agreements with Woodbine and Turfway Park and Monmouth Park -- it made it virtually impossible to show today's early races from Belmont. TVG does not have an exclusive agreement with the New York Racing Association. Belmont's races are also available on HRTV.

Allevato said that he hopes that by the time Belmont's eighth race comes around, TVG will be able to show that as well as the featured Bowling Green, and the nightcap.

Allevato said that life should ``be back to normal'' on Sunday and for the remainder of the Belmont fall meet.

I think the time has come for Mr. Allevato to resign.

You just can't be anymore incompetent than this group that is running TVG right now, it is time for some new blood that actually knows how to run a business instead of these boobs.

_________
David-LV

[coastkid]

I know we have a choice to turn TVG off. But what remains as far as DIRECTV customers they do not carry HRTV. I just pay HRTV a yearly fee to watch on Internet. One caveat I love horse racing and often Fair Grounds and their OFF Track Outlets. I live in the Righteous and Holy State state of Mississippi where gambling on horses is a sin. What a crock we have 10 casinos who cannot offer Sports Book. So frustration reigns but I am only 50 miles from the Fair Grounds. TVG's programming is Juvenile and just scratches the surface of what HRTV offers.