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08-22-2018, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
Felt weak and might fall off...
This guy has some balls.
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One wonders how often this ludicrous excuse has worked in the past. It must have, if jockeys continue to use it.
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08-22-2018, 02:50 PM
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clean money
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Location: Maryland
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Top-5 Better Excuses than 'felt weak'
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
One wonders how often this ludicrous excuse has worked in the past. It must have, if jockeys continue to use it.
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"Maragh said during a hearing Wednesday that he was unable to persevere with Musical Heart because he 'felt weak' and thought he might fall off his mount."
- #5. "Wanted to see if she could go it alone..."
- #4." I don't believe in the whip..."
- #3." and I don't believe in the reigns either!"
- #2. "Thought we had to go around twice..."
- and the #1 BETTER EXCUSE THAN 'FELT WEAK' ... "I disagree!, I was clearly preserving my mount!"
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08-22-2018, 02:55 PM
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#33
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Aubrey and Tony are both full of crap.
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08-22-2018, 03:11 PM
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08-22-2018, 05:05 PM
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How Cliche
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Northern California
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Doesn't feel punative enough. Was hoping for 5 years and figured they'd negotiate it down to 2.
Obv questions...
Did he immediately pull up, dismount and ask for the ambulance?
Can the track physician verify he sought immediate medical attention?
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08-22-2018, 05:57 PM
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Out-of-town Jasper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by how cliche
Doesn't feel punative enough. Was hoping for 5 years and figured they'd negotiate it down to 2.
Obv questions...
Did he immediately pull up, dismount and ask for the ambulance?
Can the track physician verify he sought immediate medical attention?
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If that was the track stewards that have him the 60 days that is probably the longest suspension they are allowed to hand out, anything longer must come from the state's racing commission. So there may be more to come.
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08-22-2018, 07:57 PM
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Credit to the stewards for acting on this one. Does anyone know if there has there been any action taken on Oliveros' 'ride" at Mountaineer on August 8th?
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08-22-2018, 08:57 PM
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08-22-2018, 09:00 PM
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Dutrow got 10, this should be worth at least 2-3 years? Guess they don't want a max exodus. Why do trainers, jockeys and participants in a race still get to bet? Maybe we should try it in other sports to see what happens. 
Almost forgot to congratulate Navarro for another record setting performance, possibly at the windows too. Easy target, plenty of others.. 
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08-22-2018, 10:36 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by AltonKelsey
Been saying uncoupled entries was a disaster from day 1.
Folks just get used to being robbed.
You can collude with another trainer, but its a lot messier. He catches you cheating with his wife, you might have a problem.
When it's all you....it's all you.
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Finger Lakes has a rule whereby "relationships" can cause a coupling. Not sure exactly how it is worded, but if say a jockey's father is a trainer, and her "boyfriend" is a jockey they can be coupled in the same race if her father is involved in it, unless she ride for him.
Maybe Tony C will see this and clarify - he explained it to Rich Perloff last week after a confusing entry was talked about.
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08-23-2018, 04:02 AM
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08-23-2018, 07:52 AM
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The payoffs don’t look unusual for that race. How much could he have possibly won to make this all “ worth “ it?
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08-23-2018, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZippyChippy423
The payoffs don’t look unusual for that race. How much could he have possibly won to make this all “ worth “ it?
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Pretty sure we're dealing with grade 1 knuckleheads here and not criminal masterminds. He wasn't trying to win and didn't even put on a good act.
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08-23-2018, 09:22 AM
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This is why I don’t play Gulfstream. I wait for like 6 to 8 minutes to get to the gate. Then if one of your horses is acting up, they have this guy with the long whip lashing the horses to “try and get them into the gate” but it also takes 2 minutes or so for that too, and if you watch when they do that to a horse, they finish in a poor spot. Gulfstream in my opinion IS THE WORST TRACK IN THE WORLD.
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08-23-2018, 10:32 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Tony Black is going off on this pinhead right now on ATR with Steve Byk.
Hour 2.
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