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01-11-2020, 10:53 PM
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Location: America
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Glacier National Park from the National Park Service
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01-11-2020, 11:07 PM
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#2507
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01-11-2020, 11:08 PM
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#2508
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Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
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Originally Posted by Secretariat
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Wow!!!! And what was it like in 1400?
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01-12-2020, 09:41 AM
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In a 100 years, or a 1000 years, or 10,000 years the glaciers will return, they always do. Then what? They will melt again like they have done for billions of years. The cycle won't ever end.
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01-12-2020, 10:03 AM
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Location: st louis
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Originally Posted by davew
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Part of that article is factually incorrect. We are in an ice age right now. This current ice age is 2.6 million years long.
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01-12-2020, 11:06 AM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zico20
In a 100 years, or a 1000 years, or 10,000 years the glaciers will return, they always do. Then what? They will melt again like they have done for billions of years. The cycle won't ever end.
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This is to assume (and you know what that does) that ALL aspects of any PREVIOUS climate changes were the same....THEY ARE NOT...NOT by a long way.
The population today, and its inherent stresses on the carrying capacity of the planet, is being overwhelmed and poisoned as well.
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01-12-2020, 11:26 AM
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Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
This is to assume (and you know what that does) that ALL aspects of any PREVIOUS climate changes were the same....THEY ARE NOT...NOT by a long way.
The population today, and its inherent stresses on the carrying capacity of the planet, is being overwhelmed and poisoned as well.
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The arrogance of mankind thinking it can control nature. Nature will find a way.
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01-12-2020, 11:38 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Ben Warmer
Ben Colder
Look, it is good that the Earth is warming up.
W are likely to get hit by a giant asteroid, have a super volcano goof, or even bring on a nuclear winter and the whole place will cool off like 1818. IT is a good idea to stock up on heat for that so that it will not rigger anew ice age.
Nature loves balance,
Leave it alone and it will balance out.
btw, 46, how are you coming with getting China and INdia on board to save the planet? 
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01-12-2020, 11:59 AM
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velocitician
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Since my initial learning of carrying capacity as an undergrad, I knew then, long ago, that people don't change and this planet is ultimately doomed....That notion alone has been borne out even faster than I once thought.
I feel very sorry for the young of today.
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01-12-2020, 12:02 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jocko699
The arrogance of mankind thinking it can control nature. Nature will find a way.
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It is finding a way in an ENCLOSED environment. The stresses of overpopulation are ruining jet streams, life cycles of plants and animal that took thousands of years to develop, the continue loss of genetic diversity, the long term slow degradation of toxins that are harmful, etc etc.
I am happy to be closer to the end that the beginning......
If nature finds a way, WE are not going to be part of that long term plan much like the larger reptile only we will have caused our own demise.
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01-12-2020, 12:07 PM
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Simply EVERY population studied in history showed exactly the same thing: in an enclosed environment, EVERY population, ever studied, once it moved into exponential growth, so befouled their environment that it lead to that population's demise and crash.
Humans are no different
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01-12-2020, 12:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: st louis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Since my initial learning of carrying capacity as an undergrad, I knew then, long ago, that people don't change and this planet is ultimately doomed....That notion alone has been borne out even faster than I once thought.
I feel very sorry for the young of today.
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The planet is fine! If you don't think so, I encourage you to watch this.
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01-12-2020, 12:22 PM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Global perspective says otherwise
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01-12-2020, 12:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
It is finding a way in an ENCLOSED environment. The stresses of overpopulation are ruining jet streams, life cycles of plants and animal that took thousands of years to develop, the continue loss of genetic diversity, the long term slow degradation of toxins that are harmful, etc etc.
I am happy to be closer to the end that the beginning......
If nature finds a way, WE are not going to be part of that long term plan much like the larger reptile only we will have caused our own demise.
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Let me guess, you are a "glass is half empty" kind of person.
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01-12-2020, 12:27 PM
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#2520
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Simply EVERY population studied in history showed exactly the same thing: in an enclosed environment, EVERY population, ever studied, once it moved into exponential growth, so befouled their environment that it lead to that population's demise and crash.
Humans are no different
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just because the humans will crash, does not mean the world will crash ... or has that happened every time studied?
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