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04-15-2015, 09:26 PM
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Worst Kentucky Derby Win Wager?
We are all fully in Derby Fever mode right now as we try to break down the toughest 20 horse field in the world.
As we all look back, we have to look back harshest at our biggest Derby failures, and try our hardest to learn from those lessons.
Who were your biggest flops/not winners that you laid down some solid coin upon to only watch finish out of the winner's circle?
I have a plenty :
2014: Intense Holiday
2013: Palace Malice, Normandy Invasion
2010: Dublin, Noble's Promise
2009: Summer Bird
2007: Hard Spun (ran his heart out, that one hurt)
2006: Jazil, Sweetnorthernsaint
2005: Afleet Alex (should be a Triple Crown winner )
2004: Birdstone, Read The Footnotes
2001: Congaree
2000: More Than Ready
That is far enough...
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04-15-2015, 10:16 PM
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Sidney's Candy
Bob Black Jack
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04-15-2015, 10:19 PM
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Afleet Alex...stands as my favorite of all time. To do what he did winning the Belmont after what he went through in the Preakness. Amazing animal. Was so disappointed they retired him so soon.
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04-15-2015, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF
Sidney's Candy
Bob Black Jack
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Wow. I never would have thought in a thousand years you would have had those horses.
Speed burners with your KD rules? I'm calling BS.....
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04-15-2015, 10:41 PM
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Monba. Horse finished dead last - was so certain he was going to win. Never forget that horse. Whenever I see one of his offspring, I always laugh.
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04-15-2015, 10:44 PM
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Saarland...and I'd rather not talk about it!
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04-15-2015, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Wow. I never would have thought in a thousand years you would have had those horses.
Speed burners with your KD rules? I'm calling BS.....
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They caused the origin of my rules that I have now. Other than that, I still play the lone E-type sprinter going two turns for the first time.
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04-16-2015, 09:23 AM
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2014 - California Chrome
2013 - Revolutionary
2012 - Bodemeister, Union Rags
2011 - Animal Kingdom, ArchArchArch
2010 - Super Saver
2009 - Pinoneerof The Nile, Musket Man, Papa Clem, Chocolate Candy - in order on the win bet, exacta, tri, & super - i fn hate mind that bird with a passion. i was so close to a huuuuuge payday
2008 - Big Brown
2007 - Nobiz Like Shobiz
2006 - Lawyer Ron
2005 - i forget - not the winer though, you dont forget that
2004 - Smarty Jones
2003 - watched but no rooting/betting interest, just getting into the sport
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04-16-2015, 10:16 AM
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Conveyance was my worst bet. In my defense it was only my second KD and I really didn't know a lot. Regardless, I did come out ahead as a had a smaller win bet on Super Saver and really had a huge score with General Quarters in the Woodford a race earlier.
My Derby Bets history (at least my main choices)
2014- Intense Holiday. Probably my worst Derby, only Danza came in on my Tri bet
2013- Orb. Golden Soul ruined tri
2012- I'll Have Another future Bet had at like 28 or 29-1. Put a decent sized show bet on Bodie. Probably my best performance to date. No exotics see below.
2011- Nehro and Mucho Macho Man with a few others in a tri...Uggh. I hit big early on the card and basically went for the tri. My Dog picked Animal Kingdom, go figure. Yes we let our pets "pick" a horse. Crumple up a pieces of paper with a number and throw them in the air; the one they sniff first is their $2 win bet. The two cats have yet to pick a winner; this was the dogs first bet and his only winner.
2010- Conveyance - See top of page
2009- Pioneer of the Nile ATB basically doubled my money. No I did not have minethatbird. It was the first derby I attended and what really got me into the sport.
What I learned so far:
1. Don't take a sprinter in the Derby
2. Bad betting can ruin good handicapping
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04-16-2015, 10:29 AM
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I changed my win bet on Orb to Golden Soul. If only I had simply boxed them.
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04-16-2015, 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minethatbird08
Conveyance was my worst bet. In my defense it was only my second KD and I really didn't know a lot. Regardless, I did come out ahead as a had a smaller win bet on Super Saver and really had a huge score with General Quarters in the Woodford a race earlier.
My Derby Bets history (at least my main choices)
2014- Intense Holiday. Probably my worst Derby, only Danza came in on my Tri bet
2013- Orb. Golden Soul ruined tri
2012- I'll Have Another future Bet had at like 28 or 29-1. Put a decent sized show bet on Bodie. Probably my best performance to date. No exotics see below.
2011- Nehro and Mucho Macho Man with a few others in a tri...Uggh. I hit big early on the card and basically went for the tri. My Dog picked Animal Kingdom, go figure. Yes we let our pets "pick" a horse. Crumple up a pieces of paper with a number and throw them in the air; the one they sniff first is their $2 win bet. The two cats have yet to pick a winner; this was the dogs first bet and his only winner.
2010- Conveyance - See top of page
2009- Pioneer of the Nile ATB basically doubled my money. No I did not have minethatbird. It was the first derby I attended and what really got me into the sport.
What I learned so far:
1. Don't take a sprinter in the Derby
2. Bad betting can ruin good handicapping
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Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.
I was at that 2009 Derby as well. Friday was awful if I remember, due to the rain and storms all day.
Intense Holiday last year wasn't so intense for us. His quick retirement and statement from connections after the race stunk. Can't predict a horse getting injured during the actual race.
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04-16-2015, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minethatbird08
What I learned so far:
1. Don't take a sprinter in the Derby
2. Bad betting can ruin good handicapping
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The new points system seems to have eliminated all the true sprinters. So now I guess you are left with Rule #2.
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04-16-2015, 11:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing.
I was at that 2009 Derby as well. Friday was awful if I remember, due to the rain and storms all day.
Intense Holiday last year wasn't so intense for us. His quick retirement and statement from connections after the race stunk. Can't predict a horse getting injured during the actual race.
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That Friday was great though with Rachel crushing the Oaks. It was such a wow moment for me at the time. I feel fortunate to experience two very memorable events during my first Oaks/Derby trip.
Thanks for the comments
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04-16-2015, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF
The new points system seems to have eliminated all the true sprinters. So now I guess you are left with Rule #2.
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Unfortunately, Rule #2 is proving difficult to master
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04-16-2015, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minethatbird08
Unfortunately, Rule #2 is proving difficult to master
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I've mastered bad betting. What's so difficult about that?
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