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09-10-2018, 02:33 PM
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I'd agree Serena is in the conversation of all time greatest. I'd also agree she behaved poorly but don't feel this should tarnish her reputation. She'll calm down and apologize.
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09-10-2018, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
I'd agree Serena is in the conversation of all time greatest. I'd also agree she behaved poorly but don't feel this should tarnish her reputation. She'll calm down and apologize.
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The chair umpire warned Serena for receiving coaching from her coach in the stands...and she kept vehemently denying the charges, while repeatedly demanding an apology from the umpire for "defaming" her. And then, when her own coach admitted that he was indeed coaching her from the stands...Serena declared that she doesn't know what her own coach is talking about...and that she wasn't even looking towards him during the match. So...how long should the chair umpire and Osaka wait, for Serena to "calm down and apologize"?
She was thoroughly outplayed during the match...and her outrageous antics took much-deserved credit away from the accomplishment of the eventual winner. She deserves to have her reputation tarnished, IMO...and the booing crowd should be ashamed of themselves for their own conduct during the trophy presentations.
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09-10-2018, 05:17 PM
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Just a side note : She complains she is tested for steroid use more than the average with other players. Just looking at her body its obvious she's had help along the way. Testing when she started out was not nearly as common as it is now, nor was it as efficient. There's a lot on the internet regarding the Williams sisters and steroids. I haven't looked at much, but what I've read so far convinces me they've both been juiced.
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09-10-2018, 05:19 PM
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Apparently the author of the Harry Potter books is in a tizzy about an Australian newspaper cartoon re: Serena Williams
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/1256274002
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09-10-2018, 06:10 PM
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I watch a lot of tennis and I can't remember the last time I've seen a man act that way. Any man, not just a leader in the sport. But as a role model in the game, would Roger ever act that way? Any of the big 4?
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Not that I care how tennis players act, but I recently saw some dude smash his racket into pieces and then refused to shake another opponents hand. More drama might actually make me watch. Who didn't love a good John Mcenroe or Jimmy Connors tirade back in the day
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09-10-2018, 09:57 PM
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Not that I care how tennis players act, but I recently saw some dude smash his racket into pieces and then refused to shake another opponents hand. More drama might actually make me watch. Who didn't love a good John Mcenroe or Jimmy Connors tirade back in the day
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09-10-2018, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
The chair umpire warned Serena for receiving coaching from her coach in the stands...and she kept vehemently denying the charges, while repeatedly demanding an apology from the umpire for "defaming" her. And then, when her own coach admitted that he was indeed coaching her from the stands...Serena declared that she doesn't know what her own coach is talking about...and that she wasn't even looking towards him during the match. So...how long should the chair umpire and Osaka wait, for Serena to "calm down and apologize"?
She was thoroughly outplayed during the match...and her outrageous antics took much-deserved credit away from the accomplishment of the eventual winner. She deserves to have her reputation tarnished, IMO...and the booing crowd should be ashamed of themselves for their own conduct during the trophy presentations.
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You're entitled to your opinions. I'm willing to overlook this tirade over an otherwise stellar career. One **** up does not negate all the positives.
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09-11-2018, 04:07 AM
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09-11-2018, 01:03 PM
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At least we adapted and embraced and endorsed Serena and the W-sisters.
When the Russians took over heavyweight boxing they let the sport fade into bolivian.
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09-11-2018, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
The chair umpire warned Serena for receiving coaching from her coach in the stands...and she kept vehemently denying the charges, while repeatedly demanding an apology from the umpire for "defaming" her. And then, when her own coach admitted that he was indeed coaching her from the stands...Serena declared that she doesn't know what her own coach is talking about...and that she wasn't even looking towards him during the match. So...how long should the chair umpire and Osaka wait, for Serena to "calm down and apologize"?
She was thoroughly outplayed during the match...and her outrageous antics took much-deserved credit away from the accomplishment of the eventual winner. She deserves to have her reputation tarnished, IMO...and the booing crowd should be ashamed of themselves for their own conduct during the trophy presentations.
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Why would anyone apologize for being entitled to a different set of rules, due to their star status?
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09-11-2018, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
When the Russians took over heavyweight boxing they let the sport fade into bolivian.
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That and pay-per-view coverage. The other weight divisions have suffered also, just not as greatly. Boxing fans lost a lot of interest trying to follow a sport they couldn't watch without paying. I am one of those fans. I could care less anymore, but do watch old matches on YouTube.
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09-11-2018, 02:24 PM
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Why would anyone apologize for being entitled to a different set of rules, due to their star status?
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When this "entitlement" exists only in your own mind, and you end up making a public spectacle of yourself...then you apologize, IMO. Especially when you fancy yourself a "role model". 
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09-11-2018, 04:27 PM
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When this "entitlement" exists only in your own mind, and you end up making a public spectacle of yourself...then you apologize, IMO. Especially when you fancy yourself a "role model". |
Can we say the entitlement only exists in the sports-star's mind, if the spectators support the star protesting about being denied entitled treatment by the officials?
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09-11-2018, 05:02 PM
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Can we say the entitlement only exists in the sports-star's mind, if the spectators support the star protesting about being denied entitled treatment by the officials?
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Do YOU think that Serena was "entitled" to act in such a manner? I don't...and I couldn't care less about the classless reaction of the crowd. They cheered McEnroe on too when he was putting on his childish displays...and that too was an embarrassment to the game, IMO. I mean...don't they call tennis a "Gentleman's Game"?
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09-11-2018, 05:38 PM
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Do YOU think that Serena was "entitled" to act in such a manner? I don't...and I couldn't care less about the classless reaction of the crowd. They cheered McEnroe on too when he was putting on his childish displays...and that too was an embarrassment to the game, IMO. I mean...don't they call tennis a "Gentleman's Game"? |
I said what I think. "Why would anyone apologize for being entitled to a different set of rules, due to their star status?"
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