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07-25-2018, 11:03 PM
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07-26-2018, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
WINNING
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Yep, create the crisis, hype a fake solution, bathe in the cult's glowing adoration.
Sounds familiar.
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07-26-2018, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kingfin66
The hubris is off the charts. I love it. That is one of the many things I like about you. Sincerely. Other things include your knowledge of the markets and belief in the power of cash flow, and your caring for your friends.
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Thanks for the kind words. You do know that even in my most 'arrogant' of moments, I am smiling to myself as well as you guys.
Yes, it does help to be right all the time. 
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07-26-2018, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Yep, create the crisis, hype a fake solution, bathe in the cult's glowing adoration.
Sounds familiar.
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07-26-2018, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Yep, create the crisis, hype a fake solution, bathe in the cult's glowing adoration.
Sounds familiar.
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The focus group tested "cult" thing hasn't gained any traction and it's mainly cuz far left progressives are much closer to being a group think cult than liberals or conservatives.
If you're denying that progress wasn't make yesterday with the EU then you would be denying reality. Trump has always negotiated through the press and social media. The Farm subsidies were suggested to let the E.U. and China know that the U.S. was committed to hanging tough on trade. The worst part is that people in his own party were undermining his strategy in a very public way (Kasick and Corker). It really sucks when people who are supposed to be in the same party and for the a stronger America waive the white flag ONLY because they hate Trump. So as far as that goes the Dems did what I expected while the Never Trump Republicans were the real disappointments and embarrassed themselves.
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07-26-2018, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
At least now maybe some of this stupidity can stop. Not holding my breath though. It's not the first time Europe has tried reason with this administration. |
I can feel your pain.
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07-26-2018, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
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What pain?
Completely free trade is my position. Not Trump's.
If he follows through and we sign a NAFTA with Europe I'll be happy.
Europe just inked a free trade deal with Japan a week ago.
I'm not the one who has suddenly flipped on the issue.
I favor multilateral trade deals... not bilateral like Trump.
If this comes to fruition it would be the largest multilateral deal EVER. Now I'm even more confused why he abandoned TPP.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 07-26-2018 at 07:50 AM.
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07-26-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Now I'm even more confused why he abandoned TPP.
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Because it sucked. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it bad.
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07-26-2018, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Because it sucked. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it bad.
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Great analysis.
How did it suck?
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07-26-2018, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Great analysis.
How did it suck?
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I don't have time to analyze things for you. You're welcome to try it yourself, report back on your thoughts, and we'll give you or 
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07-26-2018, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
I don't have time to analyze things for you. You're welcome to try it yourself, report back on your thoughts, and we'll give you or |
It's fine... I'll wait.
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07-26-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
It's fine... I'll wait.
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That you will. I can't wait for Clocker's pontification on why Trump's trade strategy will kill the common man. I'm sure he'll post three or four papers from 'esteemed' economists as to why we should grovel for crumbs. Fair trade doesn't have to be free, but it must be fair. The only thing Trump is doing is changing the playing field and the rules of the game. That's EXACTLY how business is done day in and day out throughout the world. He's simply taking a business approach to governmental affairs. If you can't win at the game being played, change it.
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07-26-2018, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
That you will. I can't wait for Clocker's pontification on why Trump's trade strategy will kill the common man. I'm sure he'll post three or four papers from 'esteemed' economists as to why we should grovel for crumbs. Fair trade doesn't have to be free, but it must be fair. The only thing Trump is doing is changing the playing field and the rules of the game. That's EXACTLY how business is done day in and day out throughout the world. He's simply taking a business approach to governmental affairs. If you can't win at the game being played, change it.
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No...
Clocker has stated that Tariffs hurt American's... I think there is a pretty long list of those that were hurt. Case Study 1A would be the $12 Billion bailout to Soy Farmers.
But anyway...
Again no.
Europe has inked 3 Free Trade Agreements in the past 3 months...
Europe has been open to free trade. They were before this stupidity started and they have been since. Its TRUMP who has now changed.
None of this was necessary AT ALL.
Nothing has changed but the rhetoric out of the Administration. Free trade now apparently equals fair trade... even though it didn't back in March.
Still waiting on why TPP sucked... I didn't say it... you did.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 07-26-2018 at 08:56 AM.
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07-26-2018, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
That you will. I can't wait for Clocker's pontification on why Trump's trade strategy will kill the common man.
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I have posted a number of responses to your previous similar posts that rejected free trade and praised Trump. Neither you nor any of the other big tariff supporters ever responded to those (and I suspect didn't read them), so I see no point in continuing to waste my time.
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07-26-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
I have posted a number of responses to your previous similar posts that rejected free trade and praised Trump. Neither you nor any of the other big tariff supporters ever responded to those (and I suspect didn't read them), so I see no point in continuing to waste my time.
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