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05-07-2019, 11:36 AM
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Major Hit Piece on Our Sport
It would be nice to dismiss this as just some WaPo sensationalism, but there are more than just "grains" of truth in what she writes. Unfortunately, I think the whole Kentucky Derby incident moves racing further down in the public's eye, unless you are a firm believer in the old adage that bad publicity is better than no publicity at all.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.97303dc5b7af
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05-07-2019, 11:52 AM
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WOW, as in BAD. This may be the worst thing written yet about the sport. A lot of what she's written, though, is long overdue and has been continuously battled by horsemen.
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05-07-2019, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike
It would be nice to dismiss this as just some WaPo sensationalism, but there are more than just "grains" of truth in what she writes. Unfortunately, I think the whole Kentucky Derby incident moves racing further down in the public's eye, unless you are a firm believer in the old adage that bad publicity is better than no publicity at all.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.97303dc5b7af
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It certainly tears the sport apart, though I'm not sure why you think the DQ has anything to do with it---she says they got that right by the rules---it's just a springboard to discuss all of the other things wrong with the sport that we constantly have discussed here. None of this is new; the question is what racing is going to do to resolve any of it.
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05-07-2019, 11:56 AM
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Tee shirt give-a-way day!
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05-07-2019, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by castaway01
It certainly tears the sport apart, though I'm not sure why you think the DQ has anything to do with it---she says they got that right by the rules---it's just a springboard to discuss all of the other things wrong with the sport that we constantly have discussed here. None of this is new; the question is what racing is going to do to resolve any of it.
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Nothing. Tracks with casinos would LOVE if racing would just disappear and the tracks that don’t have casinos are too fractured to collectively band together and only worry about their best interests.
Last edited by Zman179; 05-07-2019 at 12:42 PM.
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05-07-2019, 12:40 PM
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The tracks could form a committee to decide how to halt this decline in Horse racing.
Tee shirt give-a-way day! Do not work as most have tried this,
Last edited by bob60566; 05-07-2019 at 12:43 PM.
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05-07-2019, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bob60566
how to halt this decline in Horse racing.
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You start by letting everyone play with similar chances of success
(as is the case in almost every other gaming venture in our society).
Now whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hasn't anyone ever implemented that before???
LOL - I mean, why do we even bother allowing newcomers to pay admission and enter the facility???
Newcomers should be banned, and simultaneously protected from horse racing (if the present is indicative of how you're going to treat them ).
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05-07-2019, 12:50 PM
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"This isn't a sport; it's a fancied-up vice."
This reporter knows how to make a point.
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Last edited by thaskalos; 05-07-2019 at 12:52 PM.
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05-07-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AskinHaskin
You start by letting everyone play with similar chances of success
(as is the case in almost every other gaming venture in our society).
Now whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hasn't anyone ever implemented that before???
LOL - I mean, why do we even bother allowing newcomers to pay admission and enter the facility???
Newcomers should be banned, and simultaneously protected from horse racing (if the present is indicative of how you're going to treat them ).
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And I once thought you were MAYBE serious in your opinions. Now I know better.
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05-07-2019, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AskinHaskin
You start by letting everyone play with similar chances of success
(as is the case in almost every other gaming venture in our society).
Now whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hasn't anyone ever implemented that before???
LOL - I mean, why do we even bother allowing newcomers to pay admission and enter the facility???
Newcomers should be banned, and simultaneously protected from horse racing (if the present is indicative of how you're going to treat them ).
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Who is preventing the newcomers from winning?
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05-07-2019, 01:15 PM
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That's rough. Saw this thread title and thought HBO had finally released the segment they've been working on:
Guess we're still waiting for that shoe to drop. Around Preakness would be my guess.
It's been about 6 weeks since the last breakdown at Santa Anita. Usually by now the public and the media would have lost interest and moved on. But not this time. Not a great sign.
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05-07-2019, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsoEligible
That's rough. Saw this thread title and thought HBO had finally released the segment they've been working on:
https://twitter.com/FHF_Victoria/sta...85317014966272
Guess we're still waiting for that shoe to drop. Around Preakness would be my guess.
It's been about 6 weeks since the last breakdown at Santa Anita. Usually by now the public and the media would have lost interest and moved on. But not this time. Not a great sign.
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That is going to hurt big time......HBO has done one before right?
I'm at the point where I know this sport has a limited lifetime in the USA.
Last edited by cutchemist42; 05-07-2019 at 01:38 PM.
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05-07-2019, 01:34 PM
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The sport has obvious major problems, but if you are going to write a serious article about horse racing or do a show on it, you should present both sides and let the facts do the talking. This is major problem in journalism today. It's not journalism anymore. It's some prick with an opinion knowingly trying to influence everyone else with spin and half the story (sometimes even lies).
Not too many things get me really pissed off. But I hate one sided hit pieces and think the people that write/do them are scumbags. That covers a LOT of so called journalists today. Sorry for the rant.
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05-07-2019, 01:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlsoEligible
That's rough. Saw this thread title and thought HBO had finally released the segment they've been working on:
https://twitter.com/FHF_Victoria/sta...85317014966272
Guess we're still waiting for that shoe to drop. Around Preakness would be my guess.
It's been about 6 weeks since the last breakdown at Santa Anita. Usually by now the public and the media would have lost interest and moved on. But not this time. Not a great sign.
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HBO can save some money and use outtakes from Luck, damn hypocrites.
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05-07-2019, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
The sport has obvious major problems, but if you are going to write a serious article about horse racing or do a show on it, you should present both sides and let the facts do the talking. This is major problem in journalism today. It's not journalism anymore. It's some prick with an opinion knowingly trying to influence everyone else with spin and half the story (sometimes even lies).
Not too many things get me really pissed off. But I hate one sided hit pieces and think the people that write/do them are scumbags. That covers a LOT of so called journalists today. Sorry for the rant.
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Whom within the industry would you consider qualified to present the "other side" in a debate against these 'one-sided hit pieces' that you rail against? Who is out there to provide the "facts"...in order to refute these "lies"? Does the industry have an acknowledged "representative" whom I am unaware of?
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