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09-11-2018, 01:18 PM
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Felony Theft
This happened somewhere on the East Coast, not sure where. A woman has been charged with felony theft for stealing $9,020 worth of product from the grocery store where she worked. She accomplished this by eating three to five slices of ham on the job each day over the course of more than twenty years.
My question for you is, if you were on the jury and the evidence showed that she had indeed done this, would you find her guilty?
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09-11-2018, 01:26 PM
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She is guilty.
I'm sure her attorney will plea bargain here, probably along the lines of community service and restitution.
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09-11-2018, 01:28 PM
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Beyond ridiculous....Now that this employee has over 20 years of service with this grocer, they're coming up with this nonsense?....Might be some kind of pension/profit sharing involved that they're not mentioning, and they want to take it away for theft, maybe?.... Something doesn't add up, more info is needed.
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09-11-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Beyond ridiculous....Now that this employee has over 20 years of service with this grocer, they're coming up with this nonsense?....Might be some kind of pension/profit sharing involved that they're not mentioning, and they want to take it away for theft, maybe?.... Something doesn't add up, more info is needed.
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This kind of shrinkage is more common than people think. I don't think they can take away a pension or profit sharing, the courts will decide her fate.
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09-11-2018, 01:30 PM
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09-11-2018, 01:32 PM
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I would say not guilty. It seems like an over jealous prosecution. It seems like 5,000+ cases of petty theft to me. I believe on some of those the statute of limitations should have run out. Even though it is still theft employees consuming the wares in places where food and drink is served and or sold is common place. I used to know people who worked in grocery stores, bags of cookies constantly were "damaged" during stocking and left on tables in the break room.
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09-11-2018, 01:32 PM
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Maybe she is suing the grocery store for her clogged arteries and the store is countersuing.
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09-11-2018, 01:34 PM
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Depends on the facts, e.g. customary perks of the job, lack of warnings to the employee, etc. but on face value I would not convict.
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09-11-2018, 01:40 PM
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Statute of limitations surely would apply to much of this it seems. She likely doesn't have the means to pay anyway. Sounds like a news story to attract interest. In short "its bullshit".
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09-11-2018, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
This happened somewhere on the East Coast, not sure where. A woman has been charged with felony theft for stealing $9,020 worth of product from the grocery store where she worked. She accomplished this by eating three to five slices of ham on the job each day over the course of more than twenty years.
My question for you is, if you were on the jury and the evidence showed that she had indeed done this, would you find her guilty?
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If I were on that jury, I would argue for bringing charges against the grocery-store owner...for falsely impersonating a human being.
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Last edited by thaskalos; 09-11-2018 at 01:54 PM.
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09-11-2018, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
She is guilty.
I'm sure her attorney will plea bargain here, probably along the lines of community service and restitution.
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Guilty of what? "Felony theft"?
I was in the grocery business for 30 years, and I know all about "shrinkage" and its affect on 'profitability'. But to allow this sort of minor transgression to accumulate over an 8-year span so you can call it "felony theft" is BEYOND contemptible...IMO.
http://couponsinthenews.com/2018/09/...ite-at-a-time/
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Last edited by thaskalos; 09-11-2018 at 02:14 PM.
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09-11-2018, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
This happened somewhere on the East Coast, not sure where. A woman has been charged with felony theft for stealing $9,020 worth of product from the grocery store where she worked. She accomplished this by eating three to five slices of ham on the job each day over the course of more than twenty years.
My question for you is, if you were on the jury and the evidence showed that she had indeed done this, would you find her guilty?
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No.
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09-11-2018, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Guilty of what? "Felony theft"?
I was in the grocery business for 30 years, and I know all about "shrinkage" and its affect on 'profitability'. But to allow this sort of minor transgression to accumulate over a 8-year span so you can call it "felony theft" is BEYOND contemptible...IMO.
http://couponsinthenews.com/2018/09/...ite-at-a-time/
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No, not guilty of "felony" theft. But she is guilty of petty theft.
It'll be a civil fine and settled upon restitution at worst.
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09-11-2018, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
...My question for you is, if you were on the jury and the evidence showed that she had indeed done this, would you find her guilty?
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As a jury isn't it their job to rule on the facts and not on the merits?
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09-11-2018, 02:57 PM
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3-5 slices per day lets say average 4X260=1,040 lets say about 20 per lb that's 52lbs of ham in a years time or $363.48 @ $6.99 per pound.
Now if they were aware of it years ago they should of told her to stop, wrote her up of something their inaction allowed it to happen. I don't think they have a felony case... a petty case yes. Winnable... questionable... In the Case of Old lady snacking.
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