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Old 03-19-2015, 01:03 AM   #1
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Stephen A. Smith makes a suggestion

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...would-do-this/

Stephen A. has grown on me over the last few years

Listen to the audio......very compelling
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Old 03-19-2015, 07:54 AM   #2
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Can't wait to see the response to that!
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Old 03-19-2015, 09:06 AM   #3
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Think he is making this suggestion for the good of black people,
or that he doesn't like the tax bracket he finds himself in?
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Old 03-19-2015, 09:34 AM   #4
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Maybe someone put 2 and 2 together and figured out voting democrat for generations has not been a real productive move.

Everyone here seems to agree Blacks always vote democrat.
Yet everyone here thinks Blacks are getting a raw deal.

Duh.

Black, women, Latinos really need to look at what they are really getting from the dems other than lip service.

As I have said in other thread, Blacks need to stop whining and start voting. And voting with their minds, not their race.
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Old 03-19-2015, 09:54 AM   #5
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Think he is making this suggestion for the good of black people,
or that he doesn't like the tax bracket he finds himself in?
Keep telling yourself that kind of crap.

The words "Black Conservative" should scare the crap out of you.

More and more, they are being led away from the Dem's.

It's a natural fit.
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Old 03-19-2015, 10:49 AM   #6
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The words "Black Conservative" should scare the crap out of you.

More and more, they are being led away from the Dem's.
Solid proof to back this up, apart from some right wing blog?

Very little scares the crap out of me, and certainly not party politics.
If the GOP could ever achieve something for regular people, instead
of being champions for the wealthy, they might get somewhere.
Until then, it's the same old song.
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Old 03-19-2015, 11:18 AM   #7
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Solid proof to back this up, apart from some right wing blog?
Will you accept a cartoon?
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:46 PM   #8
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same democratic dribble
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Will you accept a cartoon?
Now, now. It's cute to see the youngsters try to get involved in political discourse, even if their communication skills aren't fully developed.

Or should that have been "skillz"?
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:58 PM   #10
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...would-do-this/

Stephen A. has grown on me over the last few years

Listen to the audio......very compelling

Smith fails to connect that the southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) ) are today's southern coalition. They left when the Civil Rights bill was made law. They are not today's Democrats.
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They are not today's Democrats.
That's right. Today's Democrats pander to blacks for votes and then kick them to the curb until they need the votes again. By all economic measures, Obama's policies have done nothing to help blacks.

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"The data is going to indicate sadly that when the Obama administration is over, black people will have lost ground in every single leading economic indicator category," Tavis Smiley, a black radio talk-show host, said on Fox News in October. "On that regard, the president ought to be held responsible."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/oba.../08/id/545866/

Blacks may or may not be moving to the right, but they are certainly losing faith in the left. Look at the trend of black voter turnout in the 3 elections since 2008. Especially in 2014 when Obama, much to the dismay of his party, proudly announced that it was his policies that were on the ballot.
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Smith fails to connect that the southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) ) are today's southern coalition. They left when the Civil Rights bill was made law. They are not today's Democrats.
Smith doesn't care. He is stating that the current foolhardy endorsement of Dems being automatic disenfranchises blacks.

The Dems are already pandering to Hispanics in such a manner that blacks are long forgotten annoyance
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He's UNQUESTIONABLY right. I was saying this in lunch time conversations 20 years ago.

You have no power if one side assumes they've got you all wrapped up and the other side assumes they have no chance to get you no matter what they do.

The ONLY way to change that is for blacks to start voting for republicans in larger enough numbers that both parties are worried about where the black vote is going to go.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...would-do-this/

Stephen A. has grown on me over the last few years

Listen to the audio......very compelling
You're right.Its compellingly inane and compellingly inaccurate, so of course righties think its great.Smith has made a fool of himself here.

"From what I’ve read, Barry Goldwater is going against Lyndon B. Johnson. He’s your Republican candidate; he is completely against the civil rights movement. Lyndon B. Johnson was in favor of it — civil rights legislation,” Smith explained.

“What happens is, he wins office, Barry Goldwater loses office, but there was a Senate, a Republican Senate, that pushed the votes to the president’s desk. It was the Democrats who were against civil rights legislation — the southern Dixiecrats. So because President Lyndon B. Johnson was a Democrat, black America assumed the Democrats were for it.”



"there was a Senate, a Republican Senate"..Dems controlled the senate from1955-1981

Democrats who were against civil rights legislation —[B] the southern Dixiecrats....The racist Dixiecrats were the only Dems to oppose the bill they are now racist republicans.

"black America assumed the Democrats were for it.”No Blacks understood the realpolitik of the racist southern strategy employed by republicans and reacted appropriately.

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He's UNQUESTIONABLY right. I was saying this in lunch time conversations 20 years ago.

You have no power if one side assumes they've got you all wrapped up and the other side assumes they have no chance to get you no matter what they do.

The ONLY way to change that is for blacks to start voting for republicans in larger enough numbers that both parties are worried about where the black vote is going to go.
You ignore the fact that blacks have absolutely zero reason to vote Republican unless they personally stand to gain more from tax cuts than they do from Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Pell Grants, and other federal safety net programs. Because if you cut taxes, you have to cut into these programs.

So, do the vast majority of blacks stand to gain by voting for the GOP?

(Heck, can any majority in any race afford to vote Republican?
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