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09-03-2019, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Ivey is very smart.
He should know when to cut a deal.
His earnings potential is still huge for years to come.
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IDK.
One of the dirty little secrets of poker is how much of what "the great" players earn is a product of luck and rungood. I mean, Ivey can certainly get himself into some number of games with wealthy whales, but the actual EV of those games is a lot lower than you might think (sometimes the whales run good!).
Before Black Friday, the big name poker players were making a ton of money from their associations with online poker sites. That money is gone. And of course, Ivey's remaining endorsement money is also called into question after his being involved in this scheme and losing his court cases. (Not that this money was a large sum anyway- one reason Ivey might have been attracted to cheating at baccarat is precisely that he wasn't making a lot of money post-BF from endorsements.)
So Ivey is looking at a situation where it actually might take 10 years or more to make back the money he owes to these casinos.
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09-03-2019, 05:09 PM
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tmrpots
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I mean, Ivey can certainly get himself into some number of games with wealthy whales...
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How? Bobby Baldwin has a stranglehold on all those games, and they (he) doesn't want players of Ivey's caliber.
Even Doyle can't get in those games.
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09-03-2019, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by barn32
How? Bobby Baldwin has a stranglehold on all those games, and they (he) doesn't want players of Ivey's caliber.
Even Doyle can't get in those games.
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You sound like you KNOW these guys.
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09-03-2019, 06:39 PM
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barn32
How? Bobby Baldwin has a stranglehold on all those games, and they (he) doesn't want players of Ivey's caliber.
Even Doyle can't get in those games.
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Whatever you say, Ol' Barn... 
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09-03-2019, 07:02 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Doyle is still alive? Wow.
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09-05-2019, 02:38 PM
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#51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barn32
How? Bobby Baldwin has a stranglehold on all those games, and they (he) doesn't want players of Ivey's caliber.
Even Doyle can't get in those games.
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There are plenty of people who I know from my law practice who would love to play in a poker game with Phil Ivey. It's a big thrill for a certain type of rich person who likes poker.
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09-05-2019, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Doyle is still alive? Wow.
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Yeah. He's retired from multi-day tournaments, because it's so much of a grind and he's very old, but every time I go to Las Vegas I see him there at the Bellagio wearing his trademark hat.
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07-09-2020, 11:31 PM
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Location: Houston Tx.
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"Phil Ivey Reportedly Settles With Borgata, Ending 6-Year Legal War"
https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/...ment-37591.htm
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07-10-2020, 08:16 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Good for Ivey, certainly reads like a win to me.
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07-10-2020, 08:59 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Originally Posted by cj
Good for Ivey, certainly reads like a win to me.
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For the lawyers........
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07-10-2020, 09:16 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
For the lawyers........
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Well, them too, always! 
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