Birds of a Feather

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

And Saratoga Mike wouldn't be complaining one bit...in fact, he wouldn't be saying a word about it.

Wrong again. Here's my post from 9/17/16:

"Why don't Hillary's lies anger you?

Let me list a just few of her lies:

1) Under fire upon landing in Bosnia.
2) "I set up my own personal server out convenience. I didn't want to carry an extra device" (paraphrase). It's well chronicled that she carried multiple devices prior to this explanation.
3) I feel "great." Five hours later, she discloses the pneumonia diagnosis.

These don't bother you? Please don't pivot to Trump (he's full of crap, but he isn't the subject matter here). As I said before, the reason the "liar/untrustworthy" label sticks to Hillary (and not Obama, for example) is it's based in reality.

Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it’s troubling. -David Geffen on the Clintons, 2007"

[PaceAdvantage]

That list is babyshit compared to the heavy duty baggage she carries.

Do people actually care about all this Trump stuff with Cohen?

I mean, think about it logically. Everyone knew he was a philanderer before he became President. Nobody cared.

Everybody knew about the Access Hollywood tape...nobody cared.

Why would anyone care now about Stormy Daniels or Cohen paying her?

I know I don't.

Nobody cares what Manafort did before he even was hired. Nobody cares about Popadoc...or any other bit player who has had RUSSIA painted on his head shot.

When is the real shit going to hit the fan? I'm tired of waiting.

I'm talking the kind of stuff that would make me say "No way would I vote for him again."

Cause it hasn't happened yet...

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

1) That list is babyshit compared to the heavy duty baggage she carries.

2) Do people actually care about all this Trump stuff with Cohen?

1) Proper response - I was wrong SM had called out HRC in the past.

Thanks!

2) The justice system is not a public poll.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

2) The justice system is not a public poll.

So righteous dude. Too bad you and others didn't feel that strongly about justice when it comes to certain other politicians.

And I never said you NEVER called out Hillary...read my reply again.

[elysiantraveller]

Is it possible to actually have a discussion without referring to Hillary?

Is that the gold standard of criminality? You just have come across a something slightly better?

It's got to be unnerving though to watch all these people close to the President going down on real criminal charges.

I'm over Hillary... she is going to go down as a waste and a scumbag... you guys can't be over her though because she's the only one out there that makes Trump look reasonably clean by comparison.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Is it possible to actually have a discussion without referring to Hillary?

Is that the gold standard of criminality? You just have come across a something slightly better?

It's got to be unnerving though to watch all these people close to the President going down on real criminal charges.

I'm over Hillary... she is going to go down as a waste and a scumbag... you guys can't be over her though because she's the only one out there that makes Trump look reasonably clean by comparison.

I don't care about Hillary one bit. But it does make for an interesting double standard as far as some sections of the country are concerned.

Maybe you can tell me why a judge demands to know who this mystery third client was, who apparently, wasn't even a client.

So far, since Trump was elected, all we've had, when it comes to all these "investigations," is nothing but a three ring circus filled with vastly overrated side acts.

But you, along with a lot of others, write about these happenings as if they were the 2nd coming of Watergate. That's the hilarious part.

"The justice system is not a public poll..." how hilarious was THAT line?

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Is it possible to actually have a discussion without referring to Hillary?

No, not when defending Trump. Why? We must compare Trump with the most unsavory of characters in order to make him look acceptable. We must always mention HRC. We must normalize Trump. There are no moral absolutes in the mind's of Trump voters; it's all relativism.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

No, not when defending Trump. Why? We must compare Trump with the most unsavory of characters in order make him look acceptable. We must always mention HRC. We must normalize Trump. There are no moral absolutes in the mind's of Trump voters; it's all relativism.

"The justice system is not a public poll..." (said in a deep and serious voice)

Funniest stuff I've read all day.

This is all so serious!! LOL

Next thing you know, someone will bring up "Constitutional Crisis"

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

1) Maybe you can tell me why a judge demands to know who this mystery third client was, who apparently, wasn't even a client.

2) "The justice system is not a public poll..." how hilarious was THAT line?

1) Mr. Cohen's lawyer provided the information in open court. Are you accusing him of lying?

2) I don't see the comedy in the statement. You listed a long list of questions about whether people cared or not. They were mostly questions related to legal issues. Therefore, you strongly intimated that if a case isn't important to the voting public, it isn't worth pursuing in the justice system. That's what you intimated, plain and simple.

Anyway, keep digging.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

1) Mr. Cohen's lawyer provided the information in open court. Are you accusing him of lying?

Yes, I'm accusing...lol...again, WHY SO SERIOUS?!!?!?!

Hannity says he's not a client...until proven otherwise, I have no reason to think he's lying.

I don't even know why I SHOULD care, even if I wanted to, about something that is currently the hot topic on here...nobody has told me how to think yet.

WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT THIS (at least as much as the guy who thought it was so important, it deserved its own thread)

[PaceAdvantage]

Don't you find it the least bit interesting that there are those in this world that jump on every little thing related to Trump as if it were the end of the world, and then there's those of us (like me), who couldn't give a flip?

I mean EVERY little thing...right down to the number of scoops of ice cream Trump gets.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

In general, a client's identity isn't privileged unless the disclosure of that information would implicate the client in a crime. Pulled up some case law:

E.g., In re Grand Jury Proceedings, 600 F.2d 215 (9th Cir. 1979); In re
Senel, 411 F.2d 195 (3rd Cir.), cert. denied, 396 U.S. 905 (1969); Matter of Grand Jury Subpoenas Served Upon Field, 408 F. Supp. 1169 (S.D.N.Y. 1976); United States v. Dickinson, 308 F. Supp. 900 (Ariz. 1969), aff'd, 421 F.2d 702 (9th Cir.1970); Arris v. State, 281 Ala. 622, 206 So. 2d 868 (1968); People v. Sullivan, 271 Cal. App. 2d 531, 77 Cal. Rptr. 25, cert. denied, 396 U.S. 973 (1969); Matter ofJacqueline F., 47 N.Y.2d 215, 391 N.E.2d 967, 417 N.Y.S.2d 884 (1979).

Oh well, the lawyer has spoken.
We can all sleep better now.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike View Post
1) Mr. Cohen's lawyer provided the information in open court. Are you accusing him of lying?

Oh, people never lie, now do they?

EVERYONE lies.
Just some prefer to believe what fits their agenda.

In any event, what difference does it make?
Who cares?

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I don't care about Hillary one bit. But it does make for an interesting double standard as far as some sections of the country are concerned.

Maybe you can tell me why a judge demands to know who this mystery third client was, who apparently, wasn't even a client.

So far, since Trump was elected, all we've had, when it comes to all these "investigations," is nothing but a three ring circus filled with vastly overrated side acts.

But you, along with a lot of others, write about these happenings as if they were the 2nd coming of Watergate. That's the hilarious part.

"The justice system is not a public poll..." how hilarious was THAT line?

I haven't acted like it's the second coming of Watergate.

I do find it interesting that this investigation has occurred at a relatively quick pace and keeps busting people. Every time it happens though the Trump fans jump in to minimize it.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Nobody cares what Manafort did before he even was hired. Nobody cares about Popadoc...or any other bit player who has had RUSSIA painted on his head shot.

When is the real shit going to hit the fan? I'm tired of waiting.

I'm talking the kind of stuff that would make me say "No way would I vote for him again."

Cause it hasn't happened yet...

I have a feeling if shit hits the fan it's going to hit it very hard... they have leverage on everybody.

As far as voting for him again...? You will still vote for him. You're in too deep at this point. It wont be as bad as Hillary/Obama/whatever.

That's okay though you're the self-professed world burning dude so no judgment for it.