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02-02-2020, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastfasterfastest
In the 3rd at Gulfstream Irad just showed how to do just enough intentional drafting to affect a close finish, yet not enough to warrant a DQ.
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knocked the other horse sideways in the stretch; horrible call
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02-02-2020, 02:16 PM
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#1862
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
knocked the other horse sideways in the stretch; horrible call
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And Jose learned his lesson well from his brother when in today's 3rd at GP he herded, banged, and drifted into the 6 horse down the entire stretch, but of course no dq. The stewards refuse to disqualify these two. One of these days one of them (especially Irad) is going to cause some serious injuries out there. What will the stewards say then?
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02-20-2020, 02:21 PM
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#1863
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
knocked the other horse sideways in the stretch; horrible call
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It seems like a jockey has to take out a gun and fire it at a competitor before the stewards will call in inquiry.
In the 3rd today, #4 Samoa came out three times into #6 Keilani. The first time, just before entering the stretch, the horse almost knocked down the other, the second time was a mild swerve, and the last time at the 1/8th pole, the horse completely cut off the other. No inquiry. Of course, the jockey claimed foul, and after about 5 minutes of review, where 30 seconds would have been enough, they finally did disqualify the winner. The point is: what if the jockey and/or trainer never claimed foul? The stewards are supposed to be the first in line here, and two of the three infractions were blatant enough to at least call for a review.
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03-13-2020, 11:21 PM
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when the winner fouls a horse that doesn't finish 2nd, flip a coin or roll some dice...
if it's not the winner fouling the place horse, these guys get 'brain freeze'
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03-13-2020, 11:25 PM
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#1865
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
when the winner fouls a horse that doesn't finish 2nd, flip a coin or roll some dice...
if it's not the winner fouling the place horse, these guys get 'brain freeze'
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Sam Houston Race 8? I agree and I would have benefited...
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03-13-2020, 11:41 PM
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clean money
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Originally Posted by wisconsin
Sam Houston Race 8? I agree and I would have benefited...
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maybe so
and now in r9 the just broke through the gate... had him singled on some tix
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04-04-2020, 05:59 PM
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Didnt agree w/the being DQ at OP just now. The big chalk was fading. race 8
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04-04-2020, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
Didnt agree w/the being DQ at OP just now. The big chalk was fading. race 8
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Tough one, best horse, but....
You could argue the was going to be in the top 4, the loped into 4th when the clearly lost all momentum.
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04-05-2020, 03:17 AM
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LOS AL RACE 4 #8 dq
4/4/2020
LOS AL Race 4 The horse being DQed. One of the worst bush-league calls I've seen by stewards in race history. The jockey and horse did nothing wrong. There was other motives behind this DQ
In the 4th race, the stewards disqualified #8, Biddy Duke, from 1st and placed her 5th for shifting out around the turn and taking #5 Perfect Promise wide. As a result, #7 Outlaw clipped heels with Perfect Promise costing #7 the opportunity of a better placing. #8 Biddy Duke was placed behind Outlaw in the order of finish by the stewards.
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04-13-2020, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rexjred
4/4/2020
LOS AL Race 4 The horse being DQed. One of the worst bush-league calls I've seen by stewards in race history. The jockey and horse did nothing wrong. There was other motives behind this DQ
In the 4th race, the stewards disqualified #8, Biddy Duke, from 1st and placed her 5th for shifting out around the turn and taking #5 Perfect Promise wide. As a result, #7 Outlaw clipped heels with Perfect Promise costing #7 the opportunity of a better placing. #8 Biddy Duke was placed behind Outlaw in the order of finish by the stewards.
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I saw a lot of rumbling about this DQ. I was expecting to see something egregious when watching the replay. In my opinion, this DQ was 100% warranted. The 8 horse came out about 4 paths into the 5, setting off a chain reaction that caused the 7 to almost go down and lose all chance.
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04-15-2020, 05:01 PM
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Will Rogers Down 4/15/20 Race 6
Will Rogers down race coming down the stretch comes out and makes the move over deeper in the stretch the comes over again this time clearly bumping the . Claim of foul and Stewards Inquiry they leave it as is. Unreal.
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04-15-2020, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shout1966
Will Rogers down race coming down the stretch comes out and makes the move over deeper in the stretch the comes over again this time clearly bumping the . Claim of foul and Stewards Inquiry they leave it as is. Unreal.
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Tough one to accept.
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05-24-2020, 04:39 PM
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I have no idea how anyone could reconcile a DQ in race 8 at Gulfstream today after an as is just one race earlier.
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06-29-2020, 05:31 PM
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Interested in people's views on the 7th at Delaware today.
The winner was objected against twice after leaving a trail of stricken horses in it's wake. The 2nd was also objected against in a separate stretch incident.
Stewards dismissed all three objections but decided to DQ the 3rd placed horse despite no objection, after he drifted half way across the in the stretch.
Fun times!
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06-29-2020, 08:32 PM
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#1875
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jameegray1
Interested in people's views on the 7th at Delaware today.
The winner was objected against twice after leaving a trail of stricken horses in it's wake. The 2nd was also objected against in a separate stretch incident.
Stewards dismissed all three objections but decided to DQ the 3rd placed horse despite no objection, after he drifted half way across the in the stretch.
Fun times!
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Full race here for those interested.
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