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Old 06-18-2018, 07:31 PM   #256
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:32 PM   #257
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My point is perfectly valid, you just disagree with it.





If a parent is overdosing on drugs or is not taking care of their child then for the safety of the child they have to be removed from the parent. Makes sense.

However, when a parent is trying to escape the dangerous country they were born into it makes no sense to separate the child from the parent. The parent is doing the right thing to get the child to safety. Any parent who cares about their children would do that.

I'm not saying everyone can just waltz into the country, but I agree with Laura Bush -- it is cruel and immoral to separate the child from the parent at the border.



its not ok for a parent to break the law with illicit drugs no matter what the intentions and its ok for a parent to break the law by entering the USA illegally no matter the intentions.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:33 PM   #258
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Can anybody cite the law that says children must be separated from their parents at the U.S. border?

Better question is why can't we send the whole damn family back?
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:35 PM   #259
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Can anybody cite the law that says children must be separated from their parents at the U.S. border?
Illegal entree into the United States of America IS a crime, treating those who break the law as criminals is not selective enforcement. Criminals get processed for a hearing before a judge, children are treated differently. Those who do not get this have selective intelligence, and also be treated differently to reflect their lower intelligence. When laws change selective enforcement should never be part of any administration period. This whole bullshit game of selective enforcement belongs inside Europe and not these United States.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:37 PM   #260
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:42 PM   #261
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if I was paid to enforce the law yes.
You should read up on Milgram 65.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

The Milgram experiment showed how something like Nazi Germany could happen. People obeyed the authority figures because it was the law, even though the laws were immoral. We know how that ended up.

I agree with Laura Bush, separating children from their parents at the border is immoral.

It is mind boggling to me that anyone could be so cold-hearted as to separate young children from their mother just because the family crossed an arbitrary border looking for a better life.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:45 PM   #262
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This is paradise for pedophiles. Sickening. It's bad enough these people were desperate enough to make a thousand mile journey because things were so bad in their homeland, but then they get to America and have their kids taken away where they become vulnerable to sexual abuse.

Laura Bush is right. This is cruel and immoral.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:50 PM   #263
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its not ok for a parent to break the law with illicit drugs no matter what the intentions and its ok for a parent to break the law by entering the USA illegally no matter the intentions.
You are confused by what I said.

I never said it was OK to break the law. I said I agree with Laura Bush that it is CRUEL and IMMORAL to separate kids from the parents at the border.

You think it's OK to separate a two year old kid from his or her parents. I don't.

Those are not the Christian values I was raised with.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:52 PM   #264
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Illegal entree into the United States of America IS a crime, treating those who break the law as criminals is not selective enforcement. Criminals get processed for a hearing before a judge, children are treated differently. Those who do not get this have selective intelligence, and also be treated differently to reflect their lower intelligence. When laws change selective enforcement should never be part of any administration period. This whole bullshit game of selective enforcement belongs inside Europe and not these United States.
I get it. You, and some others, think it is perfectly acceptable to separate a two year old child from his or her parents at the border. I don't.

I agree with Laura Bush. It is cruel and immoral.
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Old 06-18-2018, 07:59 PM   #265
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This is paradise for pedophiles. Sickening. It's bad enough these people were desperate enough to make a thousand mile journey because things were so bad in their homeland, but then they get to America and have their kids taken away where they become vulnerable to sexual abuse.

Laura Bush is right. This is cruel and immoral.
Seperating children from their parents is mean, even cruel sure.
Its immoral if you change the meaning of immoral, change the law and it stops the action.

Senators should do their jobs. Simple,
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A letter from U.S. Civil Rights Commissioner Peter Kirsanow to Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen on the subject of separating families who enter the country illegally at the southern border.

The man sounds dangerously rational.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...the-border.php
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:02 PM   #267
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You should read up on Milgram 65.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

The Milgram experiment showed how something like Nazi Germany could happen. People obeyed the authority figures because it was the law, even though the laws were immoral. We know how that ended up.

I agree with Laura Bush, separating children from their parents at the border is immoral.

It is mind boggling to me that anyone could be so cold-hearted as to separate young children from their mother just because the family crossed an arbitrary border looking for a better life.
2 things:

1. The Milgram experiments had to do with following authority regardless of its ethics. Tryin to tie this to the current crap going on at the border is grasping for straws. What did you just see the show on Netflix? How dare you compare this to following the law and the agents that are paid to do their job. Personally I would rather see all families here illegally to immediately returned to the other side of the border.

2. Wikipedia is NEVER a valid link to support anything. It is not citable and can be changed by any schmuck.
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I get it. You, and some others, think it is perfectly acceptable to separate a two year old child from his or her parents at the border. I don't.

I agree with Laura Bush. It is cruel and immoral.
I agree with the agents who are doing there jobs.
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:05 PM   #269
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Seperating children from their parents is mean, even cruel sure.
Its immoral if you change the meaning of immoral, change the law and it stops the action.

Senators should do their jobs. Simple,
It is cruel and immoral to punish the children by separating them from their parents when those children had no say in their parents decision to come to America.
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Yeah, I'm sure his popularity is soaring with each sobbing kid.

What a sick joke you people are.
I may be a joke but not you.
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