Race 1, Beulah Park, 2/25/13

[appistappis]

I don't get you guys at all...sure it was a bad call but beulah offers tons of great opportunities every day. So many 6 and 7 horse fields where there are 2,3 and even 4 throw outs. I've been killing it for the last while.

long live bealah

[rrpic6]

Originally Posted by duncan04

they aren't going to shut down. They just got slots

Sciota Downs, the Columbus area Harness track has slots. This is Beulah's last year. A new track in Austintown Ohio will get their license soon.

RR

[greengorilla]

Hi in response to everyone's posts. I would like to let everyone know. I called the race track after them taking down the 6 horse Paige's prize. Spoke to ED the racing secretary at beulah.Explained I'm a jockeys agent, was watching the race here track side at sunland park otb. And I'm calling to find out what the Hell is going on there to take down the horse. He explained he hadn't' watched the race.???????? I asked him well, isn't you job as racing secretary to over see stewards and integrity of racing, he rudely told me to write the racing commission if I have a problem with the stewards ruling. I then explained in my 22 yrs experience as both a bloodstock agent and jockeys agent. I have never seen such a dishonest ruling by the stewards. I did not bet the race I explained. I was calling because the actions of his racetrack give all horse racing a black eye. Which effects all of us earning a living in this industry. He didn't seem to care. I DO BELIEVE THE RACE WAS FIXED. I will be sending a letter to the racing commission as well. As for ED VOMACKA racing secretary at Beulah. All I can say is he was very unprofessional, sounded uneducated as well. STAY AWAY FROM BEULAH PARK IF UR SMART.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by greengorilla

Hi in response to everyone's posts. I would like to let everyone know. I called the race track after them taking down the 6 horse Paige's prize. Spoke to ED the racing secretary at beulah.Explained I'm a jockeys agent, was watching the race here track side at sunland park otb. And I'm calling to find out what the Hell is going on there to take down the horse. He explained he hadn't' watched the race.???????? I asked him well, isn't you job as racing secretary to over see stewards and integrity of racing, he rudely told me to write the racing commission if I have a problem with the stewards ruling. I then explained in my 22 yrs experience as both a bloodstock agent and jockeys agent. I have never seen such a dishonest ruling by the stewards. I did not bet the race I explained. I was calling because the actions of his racetrack give all horse racing a black eye. Which effects all of us earning a living in this industry. He didn't seem to care. I DO BELIEVE THE RACE WAS FIXED. I will be sending a letter to the racing commission as well. As for ED VOMACKA racing secretary at Beulah. All I can say is he was very unprofessional, sounded uneducated as well. STAY AWAY FROM BEULAH PARK IF UR SMART.

Great post GG.

Hopefully something will get done, this was an unacceptable DQ and it is a black eye for racing for sure, but more of a black eye for Beulah and their judges. Pathetic.

[rrpic6]

Its sad to see Beulah Park's last days come to this. It was once a neat little place. The paddock area like a little Keeneland. Previous owner Charlie Ruma was a Mega-Millionaire that treated his customers like they were the big shots. They had a great staff including Mike Weiss and Todd Bowker (who posts here once in awhile). Penn National are now the owners. As I stated before, they are just biding their time until the license transfers over to Hollywood at Mahoning Valley Race Course. I think once they get a whiff of what happened today, heads will roll. No reason they would stand for saving a few bucks for such bad publicity.

RR

[duncan04]

Originally Posted by rrpic6

Its sad to see Beulah Park's last days come to this. It was once a neat little place. The paddock area like a little Keeneland. Previous owner Charlie Ruma was a Mega-Millionaire that treated his customers like they were the big shots. They had a great staff including Mike Weiss and Todd Bowker (who posts here once in awhile). Penn National are now the owners. As I stated before, they are just biding their time until the license transfers over to Hollywood at Mahoning Valley Race Course. I think once they get a whiff of what happened today, heads will roll. No reason they would stand for saving a few bucks for such bad publicity.

RR

Penn National doesn't care about racing so I'm sure nothing will be done, which is a shame.

[greengorilla]

I know one thing when the track in Austin town opens, I plan on agenting there, and ED VOMACKA won't be the racing secretary there if I have any say about it.

[precocity]

running straight look like the got spooked cheap azz jockey lost control of the irons and they take the down. WTF that has to be the most corrupt race I have ever seen! the did not do sheit but run them off there feet well never and have not bet that donkey track!!!! and I dont give a dam if he was a 2/5 you don't screw people out of money like that! that was a inside job period!

[iceknight]

I watched the replay several times (esp the Head on portion), paused it and watched it frame to frame. The 6 or the 5 do not seem to cause the 1 to stumble. He does something to his legs on his own.. whether due to the shadows or just the jock doing something wrong.. I don't think the did anything way out of order to be disqualified like that.

[I LOVE THIS GAME]

Thanks hope something will be done but prob not,when you see something like this its a real turn off to horse racing,i have been playing horses for 20 years and never saw anything like this. Something shady def going on here. I did bet the race and felt like i just got my money stolen from me for no reason.I have seen worse situations at other tracks with a reason for a dq but this was not justified.

[MAGICHORSEMAN]

That was an easy call for the stewards. They did the correct thing by disqualifying the winner. That is why they are paid to do.

I just can't believe that hardly anyone else can see. Only 3 or 4 people agree with the Buelah Park decision.

They made the right call.


People have to look at the head on replay.

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by greengorilla

Hi in response to everyone's posts. I would like to let everyone know. I called the race track after them taking down the 6 horse Paige's prize. Spoke to ED the racing secretary at beulah.Explained I'm a jockeys agent, was watching the race here track side at sunland park otb. And I'm calling to find out what the Hell is going on there to take down the horse. He explained he hadn't' watched the race.???????? I asked him well, isn't you job as racing secretary to over see stewards and integrity of racing, he rudely told me to write the racing commission if I have a problem with the stewards ruling. I then explained in my 22 yrs experience as both a bloodstock agent and jockeys agent. I have never seen such a dishonest ruling by the stewards. I did not bet the race I explained. I was calling because the actions of his racetrack give all horse racing a black eye. Which effects all of us earning a living in this industry. He didn't seem to care. I DO BELIEVE THE RACE WAS FIXED. I will be sending a letter to the racing commission as well. As for ED VOMACKA racing secretary at Beulah. All I can say is he was very unprofessional, sounded uneducated as well. STAY AWAY FROM BEULAH PARK IF UR SMART.

I don't even know where to begin here. Firstly, you've got the chain of command backwards. The racing sec can be held accountable by the stewards, but not visa versa. In fact, NEVER visa versa. I can't IMAGINE a racing sec challenging the stewards on a dq call.

And as far as lurid conspiracy theories- I'd bet my life you're unaware that the OUTLET ACCEPTING THE LARGE WAGER must cover a minus pool. Not the track. So, what CONCEIVABLE MOTIVATION would a state steward have to engage in some risky, outlandish race-fixing conspiracy?

Do you know how much a state-steward earns? Too much, trust me, to imperil by conspiring to make the wrong call with brethren that (believe me) he probably doesn't trust all that much to begin with. Come to think of it, I've never seen a board of stewards that didn't hate on each other and bicker too much amongst themselves to conspire on LUNCH, let alone some malicious, readily apparent mistake sure to engender complaint and pull unwanted exposure.

And for what end?? To save the track 4 or 5 k????? All three of mnr's stewards, to underscore my point, work for and are paid by the state. Not the track. So why in the world would they CARE if betting pools take a small hit that the host track isn't even responsible for????? Or do you instead envision them risking warm, comfy job security and six-figure salaries to cash a bet on some cheap-claiming dash?? Because, make no mistake, sir, if you aren't implying that the beu stewards purposefully blew the call to stave off a minus pool, you're concluding that at least two of them were paid off or had a wager on the official winner.

Are you really going to stand on that? Or has even a modicum of common sense entered your thinking? I've come to expect nonsense like this from certain parties that crouch anonymously behind keyboards and lack the faintest notion of how racing really works behind the scenes. But, dude, you WORK in the industry for more than two decades and come with THIS????

[therussmeister]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Its funny how the only people who think this is a legit DQ are the people in the judges stand. You'd have to look long and hard to find one horseplayer who says "yeah, deserved to come down".

How can you play Beulah after that clown show is beyond me.

Funny how this DQ actually benefits the track and state, they get to keep the 'takeout' of the show pool as opposed to paying out a minus. When you see a minus show pool get disqualified on something like this, its really a bush league situation for sure. Shame on Beulah, shame on those judges.

The negative show pool in situations like this is too small have much impact on Beulah's bottom line, particularly when you realize that each wagering outlet is responsible for their own share of the negative show pool.

The total show pool shortfall, had the results been allows to stand, may have been as small as $1,000 spread across all wagering outlets whose patrons bet the favorite to show.

[senortout]

I would be upset had they not taken the winner down. Don't believe they were even a sixteenth of a mile from the gate when the infraction occurred....all three horses still vying for the lead and right over to the rail came the chalkie one.....what a travesty of justice had they not acted. Please watch the head-on of the incident.

[cj]

Originally Posted by senortout

I would be upset had they not taken the winner down. Don't believe they were even a sixteenth of a mile from the gate when the infraction occurred....all three horses still vying for the lead and right over to the rail came the chalkie one.....what a travesty of justice had they not acted. Please watch the head-on of the incident.

I watched the replay (the head on) and still see no reason for a take down. Actually, I don't even think it is debatable. If that is a take down, you would have DQs in 95% of all races ever run.