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Old 05-23-2012, 11:13 PM   #1
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Why I Said No To Twin Spires Players Pool

I bought in on Derby Day and they blanked. On Preakness Day I said no. I figured that even if they hit the super and high five and pick six ( a miracle)I would not get my money back. As on Derby Day the super paid around 97,000 dollars and that still would have left them 3,00 short of break even. I did not feel on Preakness day the payouts would = anything like they did on Derby day. Here are the results


The TwinSpires Players` Pool goes after today`s (Sat. 5/19) Preakness Stakes Day Pick 5 + Preakness Stakes Super Hi-5. The total amount of Players` Pool wagers will be $50,065.

UPDATE: 7:45pm ET/4:45pm PT 5/19/12: The Players` Pool had 15 winning $0.50 Pick 5 tickets today. Each winning $0.50 Pick 5 ticket returned $1485.05 (for a Pick 5 gross/net return total of: $22,275.75). The Pool also had 3 $1.00 Super Hi-5 winning tickets. Each $1 Super Hi-5 ticket returned $1,833.80 (for a Super Hi-5 gross/net return of $5,501.40). The final (net) total returned back (and distributed) to the Players` Pool is $27,777.15


Preakness - $1.00 Pick 5
Ticket Number 1
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#1,2,3,6,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#5,6,9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Pick 5
Ticket Number 2
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#5,6,9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$1,080
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $2,970.10


Preakness - $1.00 Pick 5
Ticket Number 3
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,6,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#5,6,9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$504
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $2,970.10


Preakness - $1.00 Pick 5
Ticket Number 4
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,6,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#5,6,9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$1,890
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $2,970.10


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 5
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,6,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
# 2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$840
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 6
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$462
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 7
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$2,016
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 8
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$528
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 9
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#1,2,3,5,6,7,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$864
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 10
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#1,2,3,5,6,7,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$756
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 11
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#1,2,3,5,6,7,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
# 5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$1,386
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 12
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$378
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 13
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
# 9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$99
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 14
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$162
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 15
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,6,7,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
# 5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$162
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 16
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,6,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#2,3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$735
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 17
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#2,3,4,5,8,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 18
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,5,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$63
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 19
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$120
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 20
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$288
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 21
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$66
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 22
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
# 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$396
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 23
Race 8 - 12
#1,3,4,8
#2,9,10: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#3,4,5,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$1,980
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 24
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,6,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#3,4,5,6,7: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#5,6,9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$2,520
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $.50 Pick 5
Ticket Number 25
Race 8 - 12
#1,2,3,4,5,7,8: #7 Horse Paid $7.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #2 Horse Paid $19.60 to WIN
#5: #5 Horse Paid $4.80 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11: #3 Horse Paid $8.20 to WIN
#5,6,9: #9 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
$1,155
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Returned $1485.05


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 26
Race 12
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Returned $1,833.80


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 27
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 28
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#9
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 29
Race 12
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Returned $1,833.80


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 30
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#9
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 31
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#9
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1,680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 32
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
$2,520
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 33
Race 12
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$840
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Returned $1,833.80


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 34
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$840
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 35
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$840
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 36
Race 12
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#9
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$840
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 37
Race 12
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
$840
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 38
Race 12
#9
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
#1,4,5,6,7,11
$840
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 39
Race 12
#5,6,7,9
#1,4,11
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 40
Race 12
#5,6,7,9
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,4,11
#1,4,5,6,7,9,11
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
$1680
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 41
Race 12
#7
#9
#1,4,11
#1,4,11
#1,4,5,6,11
$18
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 42
Race 12
#7
#9
#1,4,11
#5,6
#5,6
$6
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 43
Race 12
#7
#9
#5,6
#5,6
#1,4,11
$6
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5
Ticket Number 44
Race 12
#9
#5
#6
#4
#1
$1
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner


Preakness - $1.00 Hi-5 KEY BOX
Ticket Number 45
Race 12
KEY #9
with #1,4,5,6,7,11
$1800
TICKET RESULT: ORDER OF FINISH: 9-7-6-4-2 Ticket Not a Winner










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Old 05-24-2012, 02:53 PM   #2
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Armchair quarterback

Anyone can wait till the game or races are over and say that He or She saved money.

How smart can a person be to do that?

But when making a group ticket you are going to lose every time that alot of favorites wins on the ticket.

Over time a group ticket can win a 2 million payoff on a $50k bet then the armchair quarterbacks will have to admit after the races are over that He or She made a mistake.


Everyone knows that the little bettor has little or no chance over the much bigger bettors. The player pools gives the little bettor a chance for a good payoff.

I am just not sure that the tickets are designed as good as they could be to insure a great payoff.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:21 PM   #3
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You Are Right

You are right. I should not have said it was a bad bet after the races were over. I bought on Derby day because I thought they would hit one for 100,000 or more and then after taxes I might only loose 3 dollars. I will say this before the next Players Pool. I feel the Belmont Players Pool will be a bad bet. I don't think there will be any 2 or 3 million payoffs. If I am wrong then so what. I don't have the money to even buy a small pick six ticket so I agree for those that wish to be involved it is fun to look at the tickets and say" Hey I'm live in pick six" And for 10 bucks it's worth it. I just think perhaps they need some better handicappers like Steven Christ or Matt Cruthers Dad is a killer pick six guy. I will buy again in the Breeders cup as on that day it is possible to get a 3 million payoff. Last Year I think I won 110 in the players pool.( It may have been another day) And if they had won the players pool on Preakness day I would have posted why I missed out on 1,000 dollar payoff. So I will pass on Belmont day but will buy in on Breeders Cup. And if they hit for 3 million on Belmont day I will be the first to admit I was wrong. I only hit 30% winners..
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:53 PM   #4
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There will be no Player's Pool in this year's Breeders Cup. Since it is at Santa Anita. California put in a law banning this type of group wager through the internet, after Winticket.com's Players Pools hit the Pick 6 on various occasions in 2004-2005.

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:30 PM   #5
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Breeders Cup

Thanks for that. I did not know they did that. Have to get a underground syndicate going for breeders cup. I can't afford to buy a expensive pick six pick five or even a 100 or 200 dollar pick 4 but I see why they would do that I think they tried that for a while in Hong Kong Pools as well but then gave up and went back to letting the syndicate money back in. It sure can help out the pool if they don't hit like on Derby Day. I am not sure the total but I think the pool I was in bet like 30,000 in super tickets and missed so that is one reason the super paid 96,000
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:56 PM   #6
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I am not sure the total but I think the pool I was in bet like 30,000 in super tickets and missed so that is one reason the super paid 96,000
Along with 10 million or so other reasons.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:41 PM   #7
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DETECTIVE, you hit the nail on the head by saying they need to get better handicappers, now they use the DRF handicapper of the year winners AKA lottery winners to handicap and structure the tickets sure fire recipe to lose.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:14 AM   #8
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Team Pace Advantage

I bet we could get a Team Pace Advantage that could hit it. There are some great handicappers on here.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:23 AM   #9
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How smart can a person be to do that?
"The player pools gives the little bettor a chance for a good payoff. "
If I get this right (I am new to this concept), you place money in a pool- someone else handicaps and picks and then if you hit one big, you win, right?
Is this like investment clubs where people democratically pick winning stocks etc? or is this like mutual or hedge funds where a few brains pick the stocks and you get positive or negative returns depending on market performance.

Where is the handicapping and actual "playing" involved in this?

To each his own though.

update "Since it is at Santa Anita. California put in a law banning this type of group wager through the internet" NICE.

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Old 05-25-2012, 10:03 AM   #10
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Where is the handicapping and actual "playing" involved in this?

To each his own though.
It's a team of, what, 3-4 "professional" handicappers that create gigantic tickets in attempt to score big. From what I understand only 4 or 5 in recent years (at least after the Twinspires Bris takeover) have resulted in a positive return (but don't quote me on that...). A good way to piss away money blindly.


Those 'Play with Derek Simon' pools were also somewhat ridiculous. I think one time he was shoving $1,000~ win bets down at Beulah Park. TS quickly got rid of those after negative after negative return.
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:29 PM   #11
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puzzled

What gets me is there were only 3 horses that figured in n the Preakness, they ran 1-2-3 all around the track, yet on 8 of the 25 pick 5 tickets 3/4 0f the field were played in that race.
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:14 AM   #12
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What gets me is there were only 3 horses that figured in n the Preakness, they ran 1-2-3 all around the track, yet on 8 of the 25 pick 5 tickets 3/4 0f the field were played in that race.
Agreed, seems like they are trying to catch lightning in a bottle with some of their plays, making bets they wouldn't make with their own money, but will when given the liberty of playing someone else's.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:55 PM   #13
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Another sad performance

Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 1
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#5,9
$9,000
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner

Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 2
Race 6 - 11
#1,4,8
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#5,9
$5,400
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner

Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 3
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#4,6,7: #7 Horse Paid $9.20 to WIN
# 1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#5,9
$5,400
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner

Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 4
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#3,4,5,7: #4 Horse Paid $14.80 to WIN
#5,9
$12,000

TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner
Belmont Park- $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 5
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#3: #3 Horse Paid $7.50 to WIN
$4,500
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner
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Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 1
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#5,9
$9,000
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner

Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 2
Race 6 - 11
#1,4,8
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#5,9
$5,400
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner

Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 3
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#4,6,7: #7 Horse Paid $9.20 to WIN
# 1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#5,9
$5,400
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner

Belmont Park - $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 4
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#3,4,5,7: #4 Horse Paid $14.80 to WIN
#5,9
$12,000

TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner
Belmont Park- $2.00 Pick 6
Ticket Number 5
Race 6 - 11
#2,3,5,6,9: #6 Horse Paid $6.10 to WIN
#1,2,3,5,8
#1,4,5: #1 Horse Paid $8.40 to WIN
#1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10: #6 Horse Paid $7.70 to WIN
#1,2,6
#3: #3 Horse Paid $7.50 to WIN
$4,500
TICKET RESULT: Ticket Not a Winner

Let's see, these people invested....no..."spent" is probably a much better word, a total of $36,300 on the Belmont Pick 6. Of that amount, they allocated just $4,500, just over 12% of their total investent, on covering the Belmont winner, Union Rags, on just ONE of their 5 tickets...the smallest one.

They "spent" the other 88% of their funds, $31,800 of the $36,300, with only Dullahan and Paynter covered in the Belmont.

Will someone please cue up that clip where Trevor emotes "THIS IS UN BEE LEEEVABLE!!!

I only wish that I lived in a state where I could legally have a Twin Spires Account so I could lead the charge to have the current "curators" of the "Players Pool" ousted.

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Hard to believe they didn't even have 5 out of 6 on any of their tickets, especially considering the payoffs of the winners in the sequence and only one paying over $10.

Surely their other plays did better.
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