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01-11-2018, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Government is a tool of the people.
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How can the government be the tool of the people who don't participate, who don't know how it works, who don't know what it is doing, and who don't understand its impact on them?
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01-11-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
How can the government be the tool of the people who don't participate, who don't know how it works, who don't know what it is doing, and who don't understand its impact on them?
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Hey, it's not the tool's fault when the tool user doesn't know what the hell he's doing..
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01-11-2018, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Hey, it's not the tool's fault when the tool user doesn't know what the hell he's doing..
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You got it backwards. It is the uninformed voter who is the tool, blindly voting for the Evil Party or the Stupid Party on the basis of empty rhetoric.
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01-11-2018, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
You got it backwards. It is the uninformed voter who is the tool, blindly voting for the Evil Party or the Stupid Party on the basis of empty rhetoric.
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Don't waste you time with FannyDanny. Do you believe for a moment that FanDan really believes an Obama or Hillary are mere tools in the hands of the electorate? Or that the elitist "good ol' boys/girls in the Senate are just tools of the citizens who voted for them?
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01-11-2018, 02:09 PM
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Wal Mart is raising its minimum wage to 11 dollars an hour thanks to the tax cuts. The liberals on here will sure to be along any minute and tell us how Wal Mart is slave labor and anything under 15 dollars an hour is criminal.
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01-11-2018, 02:10 PM
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More Trickle Down News...
Walmart to raise its starting wage to $11, give some employees bonuses following tax bill passage
And in addition to all this...Wally World is increasing maternity leave benefits.
And in addition to all this, these bonuses/raises do not come out of Wally World's profits but is considered "pass through" money -- money that would have gone to the voracious beast we call government but now instead is passed on to employees.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/11/walm...-tax-bill.html
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01-11-2018, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
And in addition to all this, these bonuses/raises do not come out of Wally World's profits but is considered "pass through" money -- money that would have gone to the voracious beast we call government but now instead is passed on to employees.
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But that's the government's money. 
Those employees are just going to waste it, spending it on stuff for themselves. Probably at Wal-Mart, so those evil capitalists are even better off.
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01-11-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
But that's the government's money.
Those employees are just going to waste it, spending it on stuff for themselves. Probably at Wal-Mart, so those evil capitalists are even better off. |
It WAS the government's money. And I think people have a right to waste their money, if that's what they want to do.
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01-11-2018, 03:14 PM
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01-11-2018, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Right now, the IRS isn't feelin' the love from blue states. Governors are planning and scheming how to circumvent the 10k cap deduction of state taxes.
Very strange action for liberals to be takin' since they have heretofore they have never seen a tax hike they didn't like or a loophole they didn't hate. Yet...they're now trying to do a 180 degree turnabout from these to circumvent the new tax law. Their hypocrisy is so thick, my chain saw probably couldn't cut through it.  |
Listen to the parasite from Florida. No state income tax in Florida. Nope. No need for one because Florida gets back at least $1.20 for every dollar it's citizens pay the federal government in taxes. Meanwhile my state - the great (and not dependent on any other state for dickie-doo) state of NJ gets back 74 cents for every dollar we send to the federal government in taxes. Yet you pontificate on how liberals in NJ are destroying this country.
You are pathetic with your hypocrisy. Think about it. 
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Last edited by NJ Stinks; 01-11-2018 at 03:42 PM.
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01-11-2018, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Listen to the parasite from Florida. No state income tax in Florida. Nope. No need for one because Florida gets back at least $1.20 for every dollar it's citizens pay the federal government in taxes. Meanwhile my state - the great (and not dependent on any other state for dickie-doo) state of NJ gets back 74 cents for every dollar we send to the federal government in taxes. Yet you pontificate on how liberals in NJ are destroying this country.
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God's Elevator is expensive.
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01-11-2018, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Listen to the parasite from Florida. No state income tax in Florida. Nope. No need for one because Florida gets back at least $1.20 for every dollar it's citizens pay the federal government in taxes. Meanwhile my state - the great (and not dependent on any other state for dickie-doo) state of NJ gets back 74 cents for every dollar we send to the federal government in taxes. Yet you pontificate on how liberals in NJ are destroying this country.
You are pathetic with your hypocrisy. Think about it. |
If you people can make it own your own, please leave, and take New York with you. That is a lot of electoral votes down the drain for the Democrats.
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01-11-2018, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Listen to the parasite from Florida. No state income tax in Florida. Nope. No need for one because Florida gets back at least $1.20 for every dollar it's citizens pay the federal government in taxes. Meanwhile my state - the great (and not dependent on any other state for dickie-doo) state of NJ gets back 74 cents for every dollar we send to the federal government in taxes. Yet you pontificate on how liberals in NJ are destroying this country.
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Nothing personal, Joisey...but care to document your numbers?
By the way...if Swampland gets back more than they pay, it's probably due to location, location, location. 
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01-11-2018, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boxcar
Walmart to raise its starting wage to $11, give some employees bonuses following tax bill passage
And in addition to all this...Wally World is increasing maternity leave benefits.
And in addition to all this, these bonuses/raises do not come out of Wally World's profits but is considered "pass through" money -- money that would have gone to the voracious beast we call government but now instead is passed on to employees.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/11/walm...-tax-bill.html |
bullshit. Mostie said this was not going to happen. It was going into CEO's pockets.
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01-11-2018, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Nothing personal, Joisey...but care to document your numbers?
By the way...if Swampland gets back more than they pay, it's probably due to location, location, location. |
Just ask him how much money the department of defense and the farm bill spends in NJ verses FL.  And when he dances around that ask him how many people retire to Jersey because those figures include Social Security and Medicare 
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