The $12M Pegasus World Cup Thread

[ribjig]

Slot holder implies:

a. 12 commitments after weekend
b. it is a match race unless one-&-or other doesn't bring "A game"

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...rld-cup-remain

c. (me): doesn't (a) imply non-US entry(ies) possible??!!
ARE THERE ANY NON-US RUNNERS THAT WOULD MAKE IT A 3-OR-MORE-WAY MATCH???

[ebcorde]

Originally Posted by SuperPickle

I'm fascinated by what might fill out the gate.

I'm assuming no horses from Japan or Asia since they'd need to travel in the next week or two to clear quarantine.

My question is this. All the stalls were pursed. But aside from Chrome, Arrogate, Shaman Ghost, Keen Ice and the South American bought by MadMac who are these people going to put in the gate.

Surely since they bought it they'll use it. But we're under 30 days out and we have about five starters. Is someone going to claim something for it?

How do they fill out the gate?

I heard War Story
as long as a Arrogate, Chrome show up , how much is 3rd?
I thought Chrome was better than Arrogate because of age, experience

well no more, Arrogate will blow Chromes's doors off no joke.
Arrogate ran the way Mike wanted him to run.

I hope it's not Chromes' last , like to see another Dubai. then he can retire.
fun Horse to watch.

Arrogate is a faster American Pharoah

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by ebcorde

I heard War Story
as long as a Arrogate, Chrome show up , how much is 3rd?
I thought Chrome was better than Arrogate because of age, experience

well no more, Arrogate will blow Chromes's doors off no joke.
Arrogate ran the way Mike wanted him to run.

I hope it's not Chromes' last , like to see another Dubai. then he can retire.
fun Horse to watch.

Arrogate is a faster American Pharoah

It's CC's last race, mares are being booked.

Arrogate didn't blow CC's doors off in the BC, so why would you expect him to here?

[no breathalyzer]

Originally Posted by ebcorde

I heard War Story
as long as a Arrogate, Chrome show up , how much is 3rd?
I thought Chrome was better than Arrogate because of age, experience

well no more, Arrogate will blow Chromes's doors off no joke.
Arrogate ran the way Mike wanted him to run.

I hope it's not Chromes' last , like to see another Dubai. then he can retire.
fun Horse to watch.

Arrogate is a faster American Pharoah

stop huffing that glue man

[ribjig]

2 more foreign horses, one undefeated 6 times on dirt...!?
SA + 10f = PWC 2018...!?

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...o-santa-anita/

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by ribjig

2 more foreign horses, one undefeated 6 times on dirt...!?
SA + 10f = PWC 2018...!?

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...o-santa-anita/

85 posts.

Who is paying you?

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

85 posts.

Who is paying you?

What?

In any event, I appreciate the link else I wouldn't know it's the second largest statue in the US, second only to the Statue of Liberty.

[AskinHaskin]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

I appreciate the link else I wouldn't know it's the second largest statue in the US, second only to the Statue of Liberty.

That's what I just said to myself, before seeing your post... (and I'd already texted that absurdity to a friend)

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by AskinHaskin

That's what I just said to myself, before seeing your post... (and I'd already texted that absurdity to a friend)

I think it's sort of cool. Can't say it doesn't get your attention.

[luisbe]

I believe Midnight Storm will be in the Pegasus and that'll make this race very interesting. Trainer said before the S. Pasqual the race was in his radar.
http://www.xbtv.com/video/recent/phi...uary-1st-2017/

[luisbe]

Originally Posted by luisbe

I believe Midnight Storm will be in the Pegasus and that'll make this race very interesting. Trainer said before the S. Pasqual the race was in his radar.
http://www.xbtv.com/video/recent/phi...uary-1st-2017/

HRN:
Gary Fenton, the managing partner of the Little Red Feather partnership, announces that Midnight Storm, winner of the San Pasqual Stakes on Sunday at Santa Anita, will bypass the Pegasus World Cup on Jan. 28 at Gulfstream Park and instead point for either the Santa Anita Handicap on March 11 or the Dubai World Cup on March 25. "While we acknowledge the importance of the Pegasus World Cup and appreciate the offers from the remaining stakeholders, Midnight Storm will not run and, instead, will be pointed towards the Santa Anita Handicap or Dubai World Cup," Fenton said.

[caper]

Who is the horse in the world that isn't talked about much but would give this race a shake? I see horse racing everywhere. From South Africa to Australia to South America, to Japan and Hong Kong. Surely there are some top local horses that could step up with these?

[iamt]

Stakeholders who own a spot, but not a horse looks like it might actually depresses the overall quality of the field. Both in relation to US runners and international horses.

The expected presence of Arrogate and California Chrome means the rest of the field are running for third, and its Million Dollar prize, anyone who has purchased a spot will be looking to break to get a fair portion of that to try and get as close to square as possible. The owner of a horse is then almost wasting a run trying to compete, when there would be much easier pickings available elsewhere.

For international runners the cost of running is even greater, there is quarantine (the length of which is why no South African horse would be available) and as most are turf horses there chances of being competitive are even less; it is also off season in Europe and Australia with plenty of easier pickings coming up.

That really only leaves Hong Kong (where dirt racing is an after thought and without any major prizmeoney races on that surface) and Japan (where the local prize money is more than good enough for any horse over there).


I thought the potential to try and make a turf runner a dirt performed stallion may have tempted Coolmore to try with one of their horses, and owning a spot, but they sold onto Arrogate instead.

The economics just don't make great sense for horse owners when the two top horses tower over everyone else as they do this year.

[EasyGoer89]

Originally Posted by ebcorde

I heard War Story
as long as a Arrogate, Chrome show up , how much is 3rd?
I thought Chrome was better than Arrogate because of age, experience

well no more, Arrogate will blow Chromes's doors off no joke.
Arrogate ran the way Mike wanted him to run.

I hope it's not Chromes' last , like to see another Dubai. then he can retire.
fun Horse to watch.

Arrogate is a faster American Pharoah

I'm making my biggest bet of 2017 on chrome to beat arrogate assuming arrogate is the favorite. Easy money.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by EasyGoer89

I'm making my biggest bet of 2017 on chrome to beat arrogate assuming arrogate is the favorite. Easy money.

This seems like an awfully senseless stance.

But then again, 2017 just started....so $1 might be your biggest bet of 2017 for all we know.

Putting that aside, however, you're taking your biggest stance against a horse who just beat your pick and you're likely to get back what? Not even $5 if you're right? Yeah...way to go crazy...