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07-31-2017, 03:36 PM
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Apprentice
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 28
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Another day at NYRA: Carina Mia to Chad
What is really becoming a joke, Chad Brown gets another super-filly. This time it's Carina Mia previously trained by Bill Mott.
Chad now has the most powerful filly contingent anywhere, both on turf and dirt. He is a super lucky guy who ended up with Paid Up Subscriber, Paulasilverlining and now Carina Mia. I can't wait unit Chad also gets Songbird.
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07-31-2017, 03:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
Posts: 5,289
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Why is this a joke? You have a trainer who was dominant on turf and has elevated his overall game and is getting rewarded for it with things like this. He deserves all of it IMO.
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07-31-2017, 04:10 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,829
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer
Why is this a joke? You have a trainer who was dominant on turf and has elevated his overall game and is getting rewarded for it with things like this. He deserves all of it IMO.
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It is great for Chad, it is terrible for the sport.
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07-31-2017, 08:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Austin, Tx
Posts: 2,752
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If you boil the enjoyment of this game for horseplayers down to handicapping (meaning as a gambling option, the handicapping portion of the game separates it from its competition), handicapping trainers is a major angle. With the diversity of trainers, you can find strong tendencies and know when horses are more well-meant then others.
When you consolidate so many runners with a few trainers, there is far less to work with and makes it more of a guessing game for the handicapping population and a greater edge for those close to the barns. Those that are tight with the trainers and bet will be dictating the tote-board.To some degree, this is already happening. I don't recall the "smart" money ever being smarter than it is now. Reducing the trainer community will only exasperate this trend.
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07-31-2017, 09:55 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer
Why is this a joke? You have a trainer who was dominant on turf and has elevated his overall game and is getting rewarded for it with things like this. He deserves all of it IMO.
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Why? Do you think for a second that Brown is half the horseman that Mott is?
Has anyone see Brown handle a horse doing more than at the end of a shank grazing?
At some point, we need to start acknowledging the assistants who are really doing the training for these mega managers.
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07-31-2017, 10:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
Posts: 5,289
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Why? Do you think for a second that Brown is half the horseman that Mott is?
Has anyone see Brown handle a horse doing more than at the end of a shank grazing?
At some point, we need to start acknowledging the assistants who are really doing the training for these mega managers.
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He didn't start out a mega manager. I'll be bullish when it comes to Brown. He made his name on the grass in America and I respect that all by itself. I don't butter my horseplaying bread with these #stakes/chalk/joke races. So what happens at the upper echelon of the sport doesn't affect me. Every spring I spend half my ontrack time explaining why great horses suck to bet on! They don't get it!
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07-31-2017, 10:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cincinnati,Ohio
Posts: 5,289
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
It is great for Chad, it is terrible for the sport.
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I hear you CJ.
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07-31-2017, 11:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
Posts: 5,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
It is great for Chad, it is terrible for the sport.
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Its not good...
Whitney looks to have 5 horses this week with 1 being a rabbit. These mega stables are killing racing.
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