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05-08-2017, 07:14 PM
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who has best ROI on all their posted PA predictions??!!
Anyone done exhaustive calculations?
Flat betting on all clear predictions?
It is possible to delete one's losing
predictions, right? So one would have
to keep track as predictions are made
up to just before a race...?
Such a study, if any has done it & found
someone(s) ROI well in black, is probably
something to keep proprietary... 
BUT A$KING JU$T THE $AME...
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05-08-2017, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ribjig
It is possible to delete one's losing
predictions, right?
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I can see all deleted posts, so if someone were deleting losing picks, I would be the first to call them out on it...and I haven't seen this.
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05-08-2017, 11:04 PM
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I'm fairly certain I'm one of the very few tracking my performance currently, providing a running total daily.
I've been doing this over 35 days and 314 races and I do have a positive ROI (+4%) on my top choice when it is an overlay on my value line:
TOP PICK (OVERLAY ONLY) Running total (35 Days):
61 for 314 | $628 Wagered | $650.60 Returned | $1.04 ROI ($1.00 = Break Even)
BTW, the above summary does not include Green Gratto in the Carter, whom I picked as my 6/5 top choice in that race, and who obviously was an overlay. The above stats are only for my picks in my Value Races & Horses threads in the SELECTIONS sub-forum.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 05-08-2017 at 11:07 PM.
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05-09-2017, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I'm fairly certain I'm one of the very few tracking my performance currently, providing a running total daily.
I've been doing this over 35 days and 314 races and I do have a positive ROI (+4%) on my top choice when it is an overlay on my value line:
TOP PICK (OVERLAY ONLY) Running total (35 Days):
61 for 314 | $628 Wagered | $650.60 Returned | $1.04 ROI ($1.00 = Break Even)
BTW, the above summary does not include Green Gratto in the Carter, whom I picked as my 6/5 top choice in that race, and who obviously was an overlay. The above stats are only for my picks in my Value Races & Horses threads in the SELECTIONS sub-forum.
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Have to say, exceptional. Betting "Win Only" on ~ 9 races a day and you're in the black after 35 days. Without GG.
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05-09-2017, 03:58 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Not me. I'm pretty sure you all can achieve a flat bet profit just by betting AGAINST my picks. 
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05-09-2017, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Not me. I'm pretty sure you all can achieve a flat bet profit just by betting AGAINST my picks. |
Is there a profit to be made by sitting across from you at the poker table?
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05-09-2017, 06:52 PM
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Probably Steve Wolsons....who else went 500 races with a flat profit? I wasn't a member then--he's possibly just an urban legend 🌮 like fish tacos.
Seriously I know Steve...he's a sharp guy. I wouldn't mind if he sent me his method (unless I already have it)...so I can put it to software.
Me personally prefer any contest be one horse selected per race--in advance. The way they do in tourneys.
Nothing against your style of play, Mike. I can honestly say over that time period---your ROI is higher than my one-horse plays--NCG
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05-09-2017, 08:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
Probably Steve Wolsons....who else went 500 races with a flat profit? I wasn't a member then--he's possibly just an urban legend 🌮 like fish tacos.
Seriously I know Steve...he's a sharp guy. I wouldn't mind if he sent me his method (unless I already have it)...so I can put it to software.
Me personally prefer any contest be one horse selected per race--in advance. The way they do in tourneys.
Nothing against your style of play, Mike. I can honestly say over that time period---your ROI is higher than my one-horse plays--NCG
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Steve really did do it. He seldom, if ever, posts here any more. It has been several years since he completed his 500 race challenge (seriously, like eight years). I take nothing away from his performance, but the game is harder to beat now than it was then. And it was hard to beat then!
Who is Mike?
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05-09-2017, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfin66
Steve really did do it. He seldom, if ever, posts here any more. It has been several years since he completed his 500 race challenge (seriously, like eight years). I take nothing away from his performance, but the game is harder to beat now than it was then. And it was hard to beat then!
Who is Mike?
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PA Mke....the self proclaimed King O' Cappers.
 I'm going to get into trouble again---he actually only "hinted" at it---he never proclaimed it
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05-09-2017, 10:41 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
PA Mke....the self proclaimed King O' Cappers.
I'm going to get into trouble again---he actually only "hinted" at it---he never proclaimed it |
I did call myself a handicapping God once, but I was only joking...now I've lost something like 20 in a row...
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05-09-2017, 11:23 PM
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I'm gonna say ChrisLongshot some of his winners are huge double digit prices
Gotta give him a look
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05-10-2017, 02:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Is there a profit to be made by sitting across from you at the poker table? |
No. Even the top limit players in California have called me an "empty chair", i.e., they don't make money off of me.
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05-10-2017, 07:38 AM
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Location: Knoxville
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I am pretty sure my picks I can get you even-just let me know when your ahead
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05-10-2017, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timtam
I'm gonna say ChrisLongshot some of his winners are huge double digit prices
Gotta give him a look |
What's his record?
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05-10-2017, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
What's his record?
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who the hell knows?
but when that man gets hot, look out
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