defrancis dash grade 1 who do you like

[joanied]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

WOW

Care to explain your reply to my post

[TurfRuler]

October 24, 2009
Laurel – Frank J. De Frances Memorial Dash Stakes – Grade I

Turf Ruler Order

5-1 #5 True Quality TR 112, front runner, Grade II class, consistency 24; comments: Ready for this action, the shorter the better.

8-5 #1 Vineyard Haven TR 107, front runner, Grade I class, consistency 19; comments: Will put his foot down like the Clydesdale or a well trained circus performer.

8-1 #3 Ravalo TR 91, closer, Grade II class, consistency 24; comments: Don’t under estimate his chances, is well placed wherever he goes.

12-1 #9 Ah Day TR 86, Grade I class, closer, consistency 12; comments: My favorite but not Ravalo’s.

9-2 #4 Fleet Valid TR 80, front runner, Stakes class, consistency 26; comments: Who says there is no such thing as class, just watch this one.

6-1 #2 Roaring Lion TR 77, front runner, GR II class, consistency 12; comments: Another pretender for an upgrade in Graded Company, too many front runner and Ravalo to prove best.

15-1 #7 Sacred Journey TR 72, front runner, Stakes class, consistency 16; comments: If this one wins I’m calling Andy.

12-1 #6 Peace Chant TR 68, closer, Stakes class, closer, consistency 9; comments: Can’t believe in the hot weather invader, yet he closes with a rush.

[bisket]

1$ tri box
vineyard haven
ravalo
sacred journey
ah day
2$ tri box
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5$ win ah day
will probably add an exacta either up the win bet on ah day or add another win bet. i'll wait until a little closer to race time to decide.

[bisket]

i don't see any real track bias. speed has won about as many times today as closers. if you got to fast early you get punished at the end. if you go to slow the speed holds. thats why the four horse tri is appropriate. this is what you see the majority of times at laurel and pimlico. no real bias and a fair track. the one bias you will see at md tracks is alot of times horses in the three and four path have an edge.

[Aerocraft67]

I'm mostly with Bisket but I like more than

[bisket]

track is sealed and sloppy

[bisket]

5$ exacta box
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[bisket]

i think sacred keeps vineyard pinned on the rail!!!!

[Aerocraft67]

Keyed with in exacta.

[bisket]

impressive winning on the inside in the slop at laurel is no easy task

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by bisket

impressive winning on the inside in the slop at laurel is no easy task

As all the experts would tell you, horses don't like to run on the inside.

[bisket]

well at laurel the inside is the worst pat of the track. its very slow when its wet. obviously you beat the bias. hats off at 4-5 and beating the bias. he's a bet against in my book every time. it tip my cap

[CBedo]

It didn't seem he loved the footing, and I don't think it's his best distance, but he was just so much better than these that he was able to overcome it all.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by bisket

well at laurel the inside is the worst pat of the track. its very slow when its wet. obviously you beat the bias. hats off at 4-5 and beating the bias. he's a bet against in my book every time. it tip my cap

I didn't bet the race. What you think is a tough trip figured, in advance, to be a perfect setup for this horse.

[WinterTriangle]

Originally Posted by WinterTriangle

Bisket, good luck with your pick. I haven't handicapped it thoroughly yet but those Malibu Moon's are doing well, Devil May Care won the Frizzette Stakes recently....

It's anyone's race.

Ravalo has 9 stakes wins at this distance, and like Ah Day, should stalk the pace and come closing. Fleet Valid is coming off 4 straight wins, Roaring Lion is in good form and is 3 for 3, and I'm also looking at Sacred Journey, who has 3 wins at this distance, good post position for winners, and good trainer. True Quality may be good in the slop.

I have to wait and see what kind of condition the track is in, but leaning toward Ravalo, Fleet Valid, Roaring Lion, Sacred Journey, and True Quality right now, with Ravalo in the WIN position.

gotta look up the wet stats.

I didn't end up playing, looked too chalky, but I took out Roaring Lion, decided he was a pretender not up to this.
Vineyard did great and pulled it off in the end. My other runners were all in the superfecta.

Not sure what the argument is about the fat man, at 8/5 VH was a bet against for anyone playing. Bisket is a good handicapper, posts his picks and they are often right on. Nothin' wroing with really liking a horse, like Richard's Kid ya know

VH *barely* pulled it off.