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09-24-2018, 11:24 PM
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#946
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Speaking only for myself, this isn't about Kavanaugh. This is about the legal process for a president to nominate a judge and the Senate to confirm him. The Dems can't get their tiny little brains around the fact that they lost the election. Or to be more precise, Hillary lost it. And they can't stop this appointment using the legal process. So they are trying to lynch Kavanaugh, without evidence of guilt.
And for the Dems, it's not about Kavanaugh either. They no doubt would have tried to do the same with Gorsuch, but couldn't even come up with charges as shaky as those against Kavanaugh.
Some say approval of Kavanaugh would hurt the GOP with women voters in November. I doubt it. I think failure to confirm him would hurt the GOP with many voters. They would not vote Dem, they just would not vote, out of disgust with the GOP and the process.
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Agree completely.
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09-24-2018, 11:25 PM
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#947
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Connecticut
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Avenatti is Ford's lawyer. AVENATTI???????????? And, Amy's 'friends' seem to love him!
Is this the type of crowd that you hang with? Holy crapola!!
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09-24-2018, 11:29 PM
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#948
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Cartoon Time
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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09-24-2018, 11:30 PM
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#949
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ketchikan,AK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
Speaking only for myself, this isn't about Kavanaugh. This is about the legal process for a president to nominate a judge and the Senate to confirm him. The Dems can't get their tiny little brains around the fact that they lost the election. Or to be more precise, Hillary lost it. And they can't stop this appointment using the legal process. So they are trying to lynch Kavanaugh, without evidence of guilt.
And for the Dems, it's not about Kavanaugh either. They no doubt would have tried to do the same with Gorsuch, but couldn't even come up with charges as shaky as those against Kavanaugh.
Some say approval of Kavanaugh would hurt the GOP with women voters in November. I doubt it. I think failure to confirm him would hurt the GOP with many voters. They would not vote Dem, they just would not vote, out of disgust with the GOP and the process.
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Both side are in "Hail Mary' for offense and defense
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09-24-2018, 11:33 PM
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#950
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Location: Ketchikan,AK
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09-24-2018, 11:36 PM
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#951
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
Speaking only for myself, this isn't about Kavanaugh. This is about the legal process for a president to nominate a judge and the Senate to confirm him. The Dems can't get their tiny little brains around the fact that they lost the election. Or to be more precise, Hillary lost it. And they can't stop this appointment using the legal process. So they are trying to lynch Kavanaugh, without evidence of guilt.
And for the Dems, it's not about Kavanaugh either. They no doubt would have tried to do the same with Gorsuch, but couldn't even come up with charges as shaky as those against Kavanaugh.
Some say approval of Kavanaugh would hurt the GOP with women voters in November. I doubt it. I think failure to confirm him would hurt the GOP with many voters. They would not vote Dem, they just would not vote, out of disgust with the GOP and the process.
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Tell this to the Republican fencesitters so far like Collins.
There has to be the illusion of due process.
At this time the guy is toxic so just dump him and toss in another person that's not so damn polarizing.
That would make sense and could actually help the GOP but it's the Trump era and nothing has to make sense anymore.
In short... you're 1000% right this isn't about Kavanaugh... so **** him. Put someone up equally conservative that we can be damn near certain isn't "rape-y" and ram the asshole through.
If Democrats try and stall that you pull the "hey wait a minute we pulled rapey guy... stop being dicks" and make them sweat for once.
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09-24-2018, 11:40 PM
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#952
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Agree completely.
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Read the second paragraph again... it's why you're both wrong.
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09-25-2018, 12:05 AM
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#953
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Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver Canada
Posts: 3,204
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Originally Posted by iwearpurple
For all the liberals on here who believe Christine Ford is telling the truth, I imagine that all of you also believed Crystal Gail Mangum who destroyed the Duke Lacrosse team with her false accusations. Just because someone says something happened, doesn't make it so.
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This is the thing.
It's possible that Christine Blasey Ford is lying, just like Crystal Gail Mangum did.
It's also possible that Brett Kavanaugh is lying, just like Bill Cosby did.
All anybody can do at this point is to be as reasonable as possible in trying to determine which of the two is more likely.
https://web.stanford.edu/group/maan/...n/?page_id=297
According to a website associated with Stanford:
Only about 2% of all rape and related sex charges are determined to be false, the same percentage as for other felonies (FBI). So while they do happen, and they are very problematic when they do, people claim that allegations are false far more frequently than they are and far more frequently than for other crimes. Put another way, we are much more likely to disbelieve a woman if she says she was raped than if she says she was robbed, but for no good reason.
So, in general it's pretty unlikely that a woman making an accusation of sexual assault is lying. It's a 50/1 bet.
On the other hand, the most plausible case for claiming that Christine Blasey Ford is lying clearly has to do with the TIMING of her allegation.
The onus is on her to convincingly explain why she came forward when she did and not earlier.
On the other other hand, the fact that several accusers have now come forward makes it more likely, that Brett Kavanaugh is not as innocent as he maintains.
The bold accusations by Michael Avenetti could be a determining factor here.
It remains to be seen if he can substantiate them in the press conference he is promising within 48 hours.
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09-25-2018, 12:12 AM
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#954
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clocker
Speaking only for myself, this isn't about Kavanaugh. This is about the legal process for a president to nominate a judge and the Senate to confirm him.
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The NRA LOVES Kavanaugh. What issue is more dear to your heart than pro gun rights and anti gun control? You think we're buying that you're all fired up about potentially losing Kavanaugh because of the PROCESS?
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09-25-2018, 12:14 AM
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#955
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Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver Canada
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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
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Thanks for just stating your biased opinion, Lindsay, without making any attempt whatsoever to justify it.
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09-25-2018, 12:21 AM
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#956
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Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver Canada
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Dimcivility will be on full display this week in DC, beware and be aware of your surroundings. Simple disobedience can erupt into violent actions.
We all see the what lengths they will go to when they dont get their way or simply lose a decision that they don't agree with.
The race card wasn't available to use this time, but the sexual deviant card appears from a bottomless deck. What began as groping accusation soon grew to loin exposure and then on to gang rape, how low will they go?
We will see. Stay safe people.
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If you see the Dims marching with Tiki torches, you'll know the jig is up.
But then again, some of them are good people.
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09-25-2018, 12:25 AM
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#957
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver Canada
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Originally Posted by Tom
What a coincidence - so was MR. Louis CK
You have to HAND it to him.
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Now that was funny!
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09-25-2018, 12:25 AM
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#958
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Read the second paragraph again... it's why you're both wrong.
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What is your disagreement with that?
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09-25-2018, 12:27 AM
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#959
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by Burls
If you see the Dims marching with Tiki torches, you'll know the jig is up.
But then again, some of them are good people.
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09-25-2018, 12:31 AM
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#960
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
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Originally Posted by Clocker
What is your disagreement with that?
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Toss Kavanaugh and put someone up without this baggage.
It's really not rocket science and there's an election in 45 days.
Take a setback and turn it around and go on offense... that's what should have happened and it's too late now but that was the play.
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Some say approval of Kavanaugh would hurt the GOP with women voters in November. I doubt it. I think failure to confirm him would hurt the GOP with many voters. They would not vote Dem, they just would not vote, out of disgust with the GOP and the process.
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While its great you doubt that you can simply remove the doubt.
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