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05-21-2017, 08:28 PM
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...and its on to Belmont
Might as well start talking Belmont. Anyone heard of who might race in it?
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05-21-2017, 08:32 PM
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Senior Investment
for Kenny Mcpeek for sure.
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05-21-2017, 08:40 PM
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Epicharis from Japan is supposed to be a go. I read where Japanese gamblers bet $40 million on the Arc when a Japanese horse ran there. There could be some crazy payoffs Belmont day
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05-21-2017, 08:57 PM
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Chad Brown- Take your guns
possible.
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05-21-2017, 10:33 PM
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It's looking like a walk in the park for Classic Empire if Cloud Computing doesn't show up.
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05-21-2017, 10:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
Epicharis from Japan is supposed to be a go. I read where Japanese gamblers bet $40 million on the Arc when a Japanese horse ran there. There could be some crazy payoffs Belmont day
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This was in 2006 when thousands of Japanese fans traveled to France to watch their country's mortal lock, Deep Impact, a son of Sunday Silence. He finished no better than 3rd, beaten by Rail Link, trained by France's iconic horseman, Andre Fabre.
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05-22-2017, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
It's looking like a walk in the park for Classic Empire if Cloud Computing doesn't show up.
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You like Classic Empire after he could not get the shorter Preakness distance than the Derby ??
His pedigree must be yelling distance ?
What's your angle bro ?
Thank you for your input ....
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05-22-2017, 09:39 AM
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So far confirmed:
Epicharis
Senior investment
Lookin at Lee
Classic Empire
Practical Joke
Possible:
Cloud Computing
Conquest Mo Money
Twisted Tom
Multiplier
Out:
Hence
Gunnevera
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05-22-2017, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Biscuit
You like Classic Empire after he could not get the shorter Preakness distance than the Derby ??
His pedigree must be yelling distance ?
What's your angle bro ?
Thank you for your input ....
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Well I know you asked someone else.
But Classic Empire is a prototypical won the battle lost the war horse.
He'll be hard to beat come Belmont day.
Allan
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05-22-2017, 12:28 PM
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Practical Joke is going to the Belmont? Pretty sure he is going to the Dwyer on Belmont day.
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05-22-2017, 12:43 PM
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Timeline
I hope Timeline goes for Chad Brown in the belmont.....Chad says he wants to wait for the haskell.........Hope the owner Farrish talks him in to going in the belmont.....I believe Timeline will be the best 3yo when it is all said and done.......Love the pedigree and ability shown so far...................
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05-22-2017, 12:53 PM
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The pace projection is very important in handicapping the Belmont Stakes.
Belmont is an interesting race to handicap.
American Pharoah, Afleet Alex, and Empire Maker make 'capping the Belmont look easy.
Then there are the Exaggerators, Big Browns, Curlins , Smarty Jones'...
Also a fair share of Belmonts that fail to draw a clear (true)Grade 1 stakes horse.
It is a specialist's race. In addition to Stamina, the Belmont amplifies things like a horse's ability to relax, and the timing between a jockey and the horse in respect to ideal tactical positioning.
In 'marathon' style dirt races, forward position is in vogue, both in training and handicapping.
It's a great thing to have forward position on that turn and then finish with solid fundamentals. Everyone behind you is exhausted and much of the field's late kick has been dampened, leaving most incapable of summoning any late stretch-running heroics.
However, the Belmont Stakes generally features a hodgepodge of 3yos from the Derby trail, and the pace isn't always controlled by a marathon horse.
Contenders, pretenders, positioning, flow... and hopefully it isn't obvious to the public, and doesn't rain!
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05-22-2017, 01:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Biscuit
You like Classic Empire after he could not get the shorter Preakness distance than the Derby ??
His pedigree must be yelling distance ?
What's your angle bro ?
Thank you for your input ....
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CE should be able to stretch out if he just doesn't get involved in another speed duel and be able to ration his speed more efficiently. Pace is the race.
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05-22-2017, 01:36 PM
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did Thunder Snow go back home? i was hoping to see him get another shot.
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05-22-2017, 01:37 PM
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It'll be interesting to see what Derby also-rans show up for the Belmont.
Will Tapwrit, Gormley, Irap, and/or Irish War Cry show up?
3 of those are by sires that have already gotten Belmont winners (Tapit, Tiznow, and Curlin).
Irish War Cry might seem out of place, but in a paceless race with his pedigree he could find the necessary stamina.
Given the way the race unfolded, it seems like the connections Gormley and Irap made a mistake by sitting out the Preakness. Both might have been in good position to strike at Classic Empire once he disposed of Always Dreaming. At any rate, they could at least lend some speed to the pace proceedings at Belmont.
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