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Old 02-17-2018, 07:50 PM   #166
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That's the 40% who claim Donny Boy is just great
Actually, the percent that claim that is a lot lower than that. But the number that think that he is preferable to Hillary is meaningfully higher.
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Old 02-17-2018, 07:52 PM   #167
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but to let them have guns at 18, and not alcohol until 21 is obscene.
You actually think 18-21 makes a difference with either alcohol or guns? THAT'S your concern?

We let them have both guns and alcohol at 21 and everything will be peachy?
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Old 02-17-2018, 07:55 PM   #168
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You actually think 18-21 makes a difference with either alcohol or guns? THAT'S your concern?

We let them have both guns and alcohol at 21 and everything will be peachy?
Honestly, you don't think it seems kind of odd that an 18 year old can buy an AR-15 but not a beer? Obviously, in Florida they don't think an 18 year old is mature enough to drink, but mature enough to buy an assault weapon.
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Old 02-17-2018, 07:56 PM   #169
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There is something fundamentally wrong with about 40% of the population. That's the 40% who claim Donny Boy is just great, rapid fire guns are an American right, and no American should get a government handout.

Oh. And Steve, those are the real Americans just in case you haven't heard.
Read an article today, NJ, that puts forward an interesting theory on this.
It's about the human desire (especially in males) for control from an early age.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/d...trol-1.3393812

When blue collar America can't have direct control themselves, they then must appoint someone with whom they are comfortable to make the decisions for them. That decision maker must be someone who they feel has achieved success by earning it (at least in their minds). They despise anyone who becomes successful via intellect or academia, who are the dreaded "elitists".
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Old 02-17-2018, 07:58 PM   #170
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You actually think 18-21 makes a difference with either alcohol or guns? THAT'S your concern?

We let them have both guns and alcohol at 21 and everything will be peachy?
that you think that's funny in light of what going on is.......
whatever, but i do note you pull up people when they get personal.......sometimes?
mybe not this time because you agree with him????
not that i care one iota if you do or not, it's just an observation
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:04 PM   #171
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Nothing like worldly advice given from a citizen of a country that doesn't have the technology to produce their own automobiles.
where did i give any advice??

as for the cars, i am struggling to see any relevance to guns and slaughters?
anyway, cars were manufactured here, but once the government stopped heavily subsidising them, then it was uneconomical to do that.

have you any more irrelevances to spout?
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Read an article today, NJ, that puts forward an interesting theory on this.
It's about the human desire (especially in males) for control from an early age.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/d...trol-1.3393812

When blue collar America can't have direct control themselves, they then must appoint someone with whom they are comfortable to make the decisions for them. That decision maker must be someone who they feel has achieved success by earning it (at least in their minds). They despise anyone who becomes successful via intellect or academia, who are the dreaded "elitists".
You would be seriously scary if your weren't so seriously pathetic.

Intellect and academia?

You confuse your own desire to control everyone's lives with intelligence. Intellect and academia are so far above the liberal "ceiling" you will never what either one is.

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that you think that's funny in light of what going on is.......
whatever, but i do note you pull up people when they get personal.......sometimes?
mybe not this time because you agree with him????
not that i care one iota if you do or not, it's just an observation
I am so sorry, I guess men down under aren't what they used to be.

As far as accusing PA of taking sides that is BS.
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You would be seriously scary if your weren't so seriously pathetic.

Intellect and academia?

You confuse your own desire to control everyone's lives with intelligence. Intellect and academia are so far above the liberal "ceiling" you will never what either one is.


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I am truly honored to have your disapproval.
It really means a lot to me.
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I am so sorry, I guess men down under aren't what they used to be.

As far as accusing PA of taking sides that is BS.
it matters not at all, go for your life.
can't resist another little dig can you?
it's ok though, i am here, and you are there.
how lucky am i?
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it matters not at all, go for your life.
can't resist another little dig can you?
it's ok though, i am here, and you are there.
how lucky am i?
Not as lucky as us Americans are but we can send a postcard if you want.
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Old 02-17-2018, 08:25 PM   #177
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where did i give any advice??

as for the cars, i am struggling to see any relevance to guns and slaughters?
anyway, cars were manufactured here, but once the government stopped heavily subsidising them, then it was uneconomical to do that.

have you any more irrelevances to spout?
I wouldn't dare try to solve your car manufacturing problems from more then a half of a world away. I would expect the same courtesy with your advice about how to handle our mentally unstable population.
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Read an article today, NJ, that puts forward an interesting theory on this.
It's about the human desire (especially in males) for control from an early age.
That is certainly the biggest piece of pseudo-intellectual clap-trap I have read in a long time. An Irish journalist goes to Disney World and claims to discover there the truth about the psychology of Americans, and in particular that of American blue collar men. Few of whom could afford a week at Disney World for their families. And if they could, they would rather spend the money on a new used truck, and a new rifle for the gun rack in back.

Clearly he has never talked to, let alone worked along side, an American blue collar worker.

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We love to be in control, but in truth we rarely are. The average worker’s daily reality is the opposite.

Typically he is taking orders from someone else, and is not only not in control, but under the thumb.

He is sick of taking orders and wants to be the guy who gives the orders.
Total nonsense. I have worked a lot of blue collar jobs in my life. A lot of guys don't want to be the boss. I saw a lot turn down foreman jobs. They just want to know what the job is and be left to do it. And as one guy I worked with memorably said, "I just don't like working for no one what's dumber than me."

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The average guy just wants to put in his 40 hours, maybe a little OT once in a while for some extra money for man toys, and be left alone. Your Irish friend also forgets that until the Democrats started screwing up big time, they were the party of the American blue collar workers. How did he miss that at Disney World?
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that you think that's funny in light of what going on is.......
whatever, but i do note you pull up people when they get personal.......sometimes?
mybe not this time because you agree with him????
not that i care one iota if you do or not, it's just an observation
You might want to make your next reply more comprehensible to those who are fluent in the English language. I can't understand a word of this.
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Honestly, you don't think it seems kind of odd that an 18 year old can buy an AR-15 but not a beer? Obviously, in Florida they don't think an 18 year old is mature enough to drink, but mature enough to buy an assault weapon.
18yo can also go off and fight in a war but can't buy a beer...meh
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