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01-07-2020, 04:50 PM
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TFUS is a great product. It is ideal for me as I don't have the energy or inclination to make my own figures anymore.
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01-07-2020, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
I do probably 60% of my handicapping in the charts.
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Same with me. It may even be higher than 60%.
The only time I'm looking at the PPs, it's too see my notes and to get a quick look at the horse's full record. Then I'm off to the charts to see the specifics of the race I'm interested.
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01-07-2020, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Same with me. It may even be higher than 60%.
The only time I'm looking at the PPs, it's too see my notes and to get a quick look at the horse's full record. Then I'm off to the charts to see the specifics of the race I'm interested.
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I'd probably be more but I put a lot of notes in the charts and they show up in the PPs.
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01-08-2020, 10:13 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by Trips
Very easy to watch replays as well. Agree chart access is outstanding.
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Replays very easy to use
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01-08-2020, 11:23 AM
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Charts
what's in the charts that catches your eye CJ. You looking for anything in particular?
bob
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01-08-2020, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hracingplyr
what's in the charts that catches your eye CJ. You looking for anything in particular?
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They allow me to do a lot of work ahead of time. I can see at a glance races that had paces that helped and hurt certain horses. This includes the color coded ones, but also ones that are dominated by a certain running style even if there are no coded fractions. If it is all the favorites I don't think much of it, but if it is price horses it probably means the pace numbers don't tell the whole story.
Also, as the races are being run, I put trip notes in the PPs. They carry over to the charts. This helps so I don't have to go back and try to remember my thoughts. Here is an example from Saturday at Gulfstream. I made this note in the PPs on Saturday, it carries over to the chart:
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01-08-2020, 12:45 PM
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Location: Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
They allow me to do a lot of work ahead of time. I can see at a glance races that had paces that helped and hurt certain horses. This includes the color coded ones, but also ones that are dominated by a certain running style even if there are no coded fractions. If it is all the favorites I don't think much of it, but if it is price horses it probably means the pace numbers don't tell the whole story.
Also, as the races are being run, I put trip notes in the PPs. They carry over to the charts. This helps so I don't have to go back and try to remember my thoughts. Here is an example from Saturday at Gulfstream. I made this note in the PPs on Saturday, it carries over to the chart:
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Also like the charts. All the things I can do with regular charts. More convenient to do this in Timeform, than it is trying to open multiple equibase tabs/windows. + the added TFUS figs and color-codes.
I love the trip-note ability.
If I commit to TFUS long term, I will start entering notes there (currently use a couple resources and notepad for notes, this would be more convenient ).
[p] You guys promise not look in? [/paranoid].
Hey - Another question - There's a box/square directly to the left of the 'Race Conditions Oval'. It has a number in it, that I am pretty sure is either a 'par' for that race or a class/rating number related to a par for that field.
Q- is that a par? a projection for that specific field?(up top in today's as well). Is it the 'winning TFUS for that race?
Q2- Sometimes that number is shaded pink/red or blue. -What does that mean?
And is there a quick reference or video instructions link that explains all of these type of things?
Just noticed the new 'gray' No Speed designation for pace projector.
Thanks.
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01-08-2020, 01:14 PM
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01-08-2020, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
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Thank you. Also just figured out the track condition surface scale of 10-1.
Some really cool stuff.
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01-08-2020, 02:43 PM
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Another Question
Did try using the blog first.
I see how to enter trip notes, using today's Past Performance page.
Is there a way in Charts (or another way) to add notes for past races?
Is there a 'horse search' function, where I can enter a horse name, and then put in my existing notes?
Thanks for the help.
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01-08-2020, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
Another Question
Did try using the blog first.
I see how to enter trip notes, using today's Past Performance page.
Is there a way in Charts (or another way) to add notes for past races?
Is there a 'horse search' function, where I can enter a horse name, and then put in my existing notes?
Thanks for the help.
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That I don't believe you can do. You can add overall notes to the chart itself, but they don't show up in the PPs, just the chart. You have a week I think after the races are run to do it in the PPs before they go away.
This is part of why I use the charts so much. I'll inquire about getting it where we can add to "Your Notes" in the charts, but you can't right now.
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01-18-2020, 11:23 PM
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I've been following TFUS free races of the day. Nice hit in the 7th at SA. Seems spot on with the numbers.
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01-18-2020, 11:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyb
I've been following TFUS free races of the day. Nice hit in the 7th at SA. Seems spot on with the numbers.
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Heck of a training job on the winner. Rafael Becerra has always been a competent horseman but that was really a solid job.
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01-21-2020, 02:45 PM
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I saw somewhere in a thread that someone mentioned being interested in a Timeform package for a specific meet (rather than a monthly unlimited for all tracks). I know I would be interested in looking at that for Oaklawn. Has anyone come across such an offering?
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Past performances are no guarantee of future results. - Why isn't this disclaimer printed in the Daily Racing Form?
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01-22-2020, 12:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarchCapper
I saw somewhere in a thread that someone mentioned being interested in a Timeform package for a specific meet (rather than a monthly unlimited for all tracks). I know I would be interested in looking at that for Oaklawn. Has anyone come across such an offering?
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I can ask, but think we only do that for Saratoga.
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