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01-18-2018, 01:08 PM
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And what makes you think that the Future is not causing the Present, and in turn the Present isn't causing the Past?
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If you've ever read the Dune series by Frank Herbert, that ended up being the entire premise of is many scifi books, which you discover at the end of book 8. One possible future event (out of an infinite set of possibilities) had already occurred, and all the God Emperor needed to do was select the proper current events over time in order to fulfill the future he wanted. Nice trick if you're presciently minded.
Edit to add that because he lived 3,500 years, the God Emperor was able to rewrite the the past as well to fit the needs of the future.
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01-18-2018, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
If you've ever read the Dune series by Frank Herbert, that ended up being the entire premise of is many scifi books, which you discover at the end of book 8. One possible future event (out of an infinite set of possibilities) had already occurred, and all the God Emperor needed to do was select the proper current events over time in order to fulfill the future he wanted. Nice trick if you're presciently minded.
Edit to add that because he lived 3,500 years, the God Emperor was able to rewrite the the past as well to fit the needs of the future.
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Logically, this can be the only logical flow of time (not to be confused with chronological order which is Hcap's self-perpetuated failure!). The "flow" of Time can easily be ascertained by starting with the Present. This present moment just flowed into the Past to become "used" time, never to be used again. And the next moment is coming to us out of the Future so that we can actually experience Phenomena, which cannot be experienced in the Future or the Past, the way it can only in the Present. And as we experience what was the "next moment" that came to us out of the Future, that present time flows into the Past, etc., etc. And so, the flow continues....until the sands of Time are no more.
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01-18-2018, 02:54 PM
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OK!! Talk on any level you chose.....What came first .....the chicken or the egg.
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I ordered an Egg McMuffin and McNuggets for breakfast today - they both came in the same bag.
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01-18-2018, 02:58 PM
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#170
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01-18-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Why is it, and I can count many of them, liberals known to me seemed to have double standards when it comes to Trump. Any time I have made negative comments on someone's appearance (I never did it where the person it was directed at could hear or it was someone on TV) I was chastised. My common targets were comb overs as I immediately cut my hair short or shaved my head when I started balding and people with excessive piercings and tattoos on their face. Anything I commented on was a personal choice, I did not comment on a person's size or a handicap.
These same people who ripped me for commenting on comb overs make fun of Trump's hair, his weight, the way he talks etc,etc. Those same folks ripped on me when I mention Joe Biden's obvious hair transplant and face lift. Care to explain? Anyone?
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it's called the duplicity of the left leaner
They do it all the time
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01-19-2018, 12:18 AM
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01-19-2018, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
If you've ever read the Dune series by Frank Herbert, that ended up being the entire premise of is many scifi books, which you discover at the end of book 8. One possible future event (out of an infinite set of possibilities) had already occurred, and all the God Emperor needed to do was select the proper current events over time in order to fulfill the future he wanted. Nice trick if you're presciently minded.
Edit to add that because he lived 3,500 years, the God Emperor was able to rewrite the the past as well to fit the needs of the future.
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Dune is a great novel but has nothing to do with future events occurring before the present and past.
Name one physical process other than those on the probabilistic quantum level where cause may precede effect?
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01-19-2018, 04:47 AM
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I post Stephen Hawking as a reasonable scientific expert and he gets trashed for "believing in time travel" by various pa "EXPERTS" WHO TOTALLY MISUNDERSTAND THE RELATIVISTIC PHENOMENA of gravity he was pointing to. Meanwhile those same experts who complained irrationally about time travel support a "reverse flow of time".
Yeah, whatever caused me to mention amateur PA climatologists?
Maybe a future PA trumpeteer spanked me with a bible first before I ever posted on off topic?
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01-19-2018, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
I post Stephen Hawking as a reasonable scientific expert and he gets trashed for "believing in time travel" by various pa "EXPERTS" WHO TOTALLY MISUNDERSTAND THE RELATIVISTIC PHENOMENA of gravity he was pointing to. Meanwhile those same experts who complained irrationally about time travel support a "reverse flow of time".
Yeah, whatever caused me to mention amateur PA climatologists?
Maybe a future PA trumpeteer spanked me with a bible first before I ever posted on off topic?
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You still haven't found a dictionary and looked up theoretical yet have you?
Hawking makes educated guesses, that is his life's work. He hasn't proved anything that was previously unknown. All those big words you throw around that theoretical physicists use all point to the same thing, theories which are nothing but guesswork.
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01-19-2018, 09:02 AM
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2017 was Earth's second hottest year since global estimates became feasible in 1880. The year continued a decades-long warming trend – 17 of the 18 warmest years have now occurred since 2001.
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And your point is........?
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01-19-2018, 09:19 AM
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Hard to imagine that GISS, which is run by a top AGW Alarmist Gavin Schmidt, would find such evidence.
He should be fired yesterday for his anti-science position on reasonable public discourse. He has a website, which he uses on govt time, that only allows Alarmist views. How American of him.
THAT is the fox running the henhouse.
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01-19-2018, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
I post Stephen Hawking as a reasonable scientific expert and he gets trashed for "believing in time travel" by various pa "EXPERTS" WHO TOTALLY MISUNDERSTAND THE RELATIVISTIC PHENOMENA of gravity he was pointing to. Meanwhile those same experts who complained irrationally about time travel support a "reverse flow of time".
Yeah, whatever caused me to mention amateur PA climatologists?
Maybe a future PA trumpeteer spanked me with a bible first before I ever posted on off topic?
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You were doomed from the start: It should have been a rod instead of a bible.
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01-19-2018, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
You were doomed from the start: It should have been a rod instead of a bible.
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Name one physical process other than those on the probabilistic quantum level where cause may precede effect? There are none. Zero, Nada, Zilch.
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