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02-28-2012, 04:28 PM
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Not surprised tough break for the horses connections.
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02-28-2012, 05:05 PM
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Is this really a surprise? Does anyone break down more horses than this guy, even percentage wise?
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02-28-2012, 05:06 PM
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How many years in a row now has a TC favorite contender who is also trained by Pletcher gone down....?
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02-28-2012, 06:49 PM
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Another question is; When are these owners going to wise up?
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02-28-2012, 07:08 PM
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Wasn't it Lukas who had Bye Union Avenue in the Preakness and he broke down ?
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02-28-2012, 07:12 PM
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I had Algorithms right there with the top horses.
Maybe he was so pumped up that he out-ran his physical limits? Maybe it was just bad luck.
These are fragile animals.
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02-28-2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pell Mell
Another question is; When are these owners going to wise up?
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When he stops making them millions and millions of dollars?
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02-28-2012, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
When he stops making them millions and millions of dollars?
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I wonder what his ACTUAL % is for profit for owners...I can only think of ONE where he's MADE millions...most have LOST millions...
not COUNTING insurance THAT is
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02-28-2012, 09:48 PM
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The horse is a half-brother to Keyed Entry, who I believe ran last in the Derby. Jack Wolf also owned that horse, and I heard him say on a radio show last year that it was "stupidity" to run him when he knew he was not a 10F horse. Not sure if Algorithms was in that mold, but his sibling's performance didn't bode well for him. Maybe being by Bernardini will help.
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02-28-2012, 10:13 PM
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To be fair , Pletcher has a very large stable and sends out alot of high caliber horses while under the microscope by the press.
I don't find it a problem getting information on his horses. Once his barn knows it's usually disclosed. There are many breakdowns , illnesses and injuries out there that are kept very private until leaked by an insider , or
never mentioned.
Theskysthelimit just broke down this weekend and is being cautiously watched after surgery , but it's not something many here would inquire
about since he's not on the TC trail and not Todd's. . Asmussen's barn is finally getting the message and letting out news but most barns coast to coast don't.
Al Gor will be out of training but he will get the best of care.
Last edited by nijinski; 02-28-2012 at 10:14 PM.
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02-28-2012, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nijinski
To be fair , Pletcher has a very large stable and sends out alot of high caliber horses while under the microscope by the press.
I don't find it a problem getting information on his horses. Once his barn knows it's usually disclosed. There are many breakdowns , illnesses and injuries out there that are kept very private until leaked by an insider , or
never mentioned.
Theskysthelimit just broke down this weekend and is being cautiously watched after surgery , but it's not something many here would inquire
about since he's not on the TC trail and not Todd's. . Asmussen's barn is finally getting the message and letting out news but most barns coast to coast don't.
Al Gor will be out of training but he will get the best of care.
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, Proper horse is Thiskyhasnolimit is that brokedown in the Mineshaft .
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02-28-2012, 11:37 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
When he stops making them millions and millions of dollars?
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You really think he does, on average?
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02-29-2012, 02:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sammy the sage
I wonder what his ACTUAL % is for profit for owners...I can only think of ONE where he's MADE millions...most have LOST millions...
not COUNTING insurance THAT is
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So you're saying when an owner spends millions on a horse and Pletcher can't get the horse to win, it's all on Pletcher, and not that fact that the owner probably overpaid for a nag?
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02-29-2012, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by cj
You really think he does, on average?
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Horses under his care made $17M last year...somebody pocketed that chump change...
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