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05-14-2005, 08:18 AM
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Giacomo and Handicapping Magic
Read on another forum that Giac came up as the "fulcrum" horse ala Pizolla.
I use Bris figs with my HM and sure enough...he did.
"fulcrum" horses (according to the book and many posters) run 1 or 2 frequently.
Did I remember this or even thnk about it...noooooo.
Ahhh, the excitement of being at the Derby..Guess I threw my brains away.
Grahors
Oh Monty, Monty..should I pick door 1 or 2 or maybe 3..Oh Monty, Monty
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05-14-2005, 09:29 AM
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I know by Pizzola's definition there is no way in the world Giacomo is the fulcrum horse.
Using BRIS figures, how many points at the E2 call would be considered atypical?
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05-14-2005, 09:55 AM
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CJ
4 pts would be atypical.
Strictly last race and no more than 5l away at 2 call and finish.
I will review again. I may have been anxious to find some answer. Check out the post by Tom on your forum under "fulcrum".
Grahors
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05-14-2005, 09:59 AM
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Buzzard's Bay then Wilko by BRIS numbers.
Closing Argument by mine by the way, though I missed it. At least if, as I think, an in the money finish qualifies as a good race too.
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05-14-2005, 10:04 AM
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Upon further review....Wilko could get the call.
Last race E2 100..last year in December, 96.
Giac..last race 96..three other of his in the range. 96 or above.
Oh well....thanks CJ
I was close.
Grahors (Cecil)
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05-14-2005, 10:06 AM
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Buzzard's Bay had a 103, 100 a few back, also a 99 somewhere.
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05-14-2005, 10:07 AM
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CJ,
Buzzard last 103 bris Race in Feb 99 but not competitive (faded)
Toss him...???
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05-14-2005, 10:10 AM
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Buzzard did have a 100 @ 7F..judgement call.
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05-14-2005, 10:15 AM
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I did have Closing Arg via your figs also.
$10w, 20p, 30s.
Our seats were 1/2 way down the str and I really believe he made my heart skip afew beats. HAd to catch the finish on the Jumbotron.
Thanks so much!
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05-14-2005, 10:19 AM
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I'm glad somebody had him, but I didn't.
I'm no fulcrum expert. I thought if the last race qualified, the matching race did not have to be competitive, just had to qualify the last on pace as not being non-typical. Again, I don't remember for sure, maybe someone else knows the answer.
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05-14-2005, 11:18 AM
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When I use BRIs or TSN pace figs for the fulcrum, I want at least one other race within 4 points.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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05-14-2005, 11:40 AM
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Pizzolla gave his Derby analysis that you could get at his ITS site and the horse he was "touting" was Greely's Galaxy. He pretty much discounted Giacomo. However a friend of mine using MPH manually had the horse 2nd but he's not a win bettor and blew the tri. Some guys at the Sartin sites also had the winner.
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05-14-2005, 11:45 AM
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For The Record
The fulcrum horse, per TMM, was High Fly.
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05-14-2005, 01:02 PM
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G pop
So everybody is trying to claim G and want you to pay them for another top 4 choices pick? LOL! This is getting funny! I had him in my top 15 of the race! He was 14th but at a profit!LOL! Wanna buy my 10 Preakness picks?
A lot of sellers are trying to make Mulloins look right!
Last edited by kenwoodallpromos; 05-14-2005 at 01:03 PM.
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05-14-2005, 02:57 PM
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Say what Ken? What does your post have to do with fulcrum pace? Sometimes your posts really confuse me. JimL
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