Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Thoroughbred Horse Racing Discussion > General Racing Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 09-29-2017, 01:45 PM   #1
bigeastbeast
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 226
How can horse racing take advantage of the chaos in team sports?

There has be a way to reach the pro sports fan turned off by the USA hating seen in the NFL and the NBA.

Ads proclaiming that the horses never complain,etc.Any ideas?
bigeastbeast is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 02:04 PM   #2
thaskalos
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,569
I have an idea. How about a horseracing ad proclaiming:

In our sport, there is no "racial injustice"...as there is in society at large. Here...we will charge you 16%-31% to participate...REGARDLESS of your race, or creed.
__________________
"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why."
-- Hermann Hesse
thaskalos is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 02:13 PM   #3
AlsoEligible
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 234
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigeastbeast View Post
Ads proclaiming that the horses never complain,etc.Any ideas?
"If our athletes are on their knees, we'll shoot them in the head."
AlsoEligible is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 02:31 PM   #4
VigorsTheGrey
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,553
Who says the protest will not spread to include horse racing...? Can't you envision all the affecting jockeys coming out from the Jockeys room and taking the knee while the anthem is playing prior to the races...? Does not racing have an assumed heritage of white privilege...the sport is ripe for this type of social protest...not that I agree with it.

Last edited by VigorsTheGrey; 09-29-2017 at 02:37 PM.
VigorsTheGrey is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 03:08 PM   #5
Jeff P
Registered User
 
Jeff P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
Posts: 5,291
I can see it now...

All of the riders agree while in the jock's room to line up on the track apron just prior to the playing of the anthem, and kneel once playing of the anthem commences.

Then, for absolutely no reason, Kent Desormeaux stands up in the middle of the last verse - just before the anthem is completed.




-jp

.
__________________
Team JCapper: 2011 PAIHL Regular Season ROI Leader after 15 weeks
www.JCapper.com
Jeff P is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 03:27 PM   #6
elhelmete
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,738
Of all the professional sporting events I've gone to, horse racing by far has the least % of people standing and removing their hats for the flag/anthem.
elhelmete is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 04:28 PM   #7
AlsoEligible
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 234
Do most racetracks even play the anthem before racing? I mean, I've seen it for the big days. Triple Crown, Breeder's, etc.

But on a normal raceday, I honestly don't recall hearing it. Or at least, no one cared enough to put down their programs and stand up for it. Maybe it's more prevalent at some tracks over others?
AlsoEligible is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 04:37 PM   #8
cj
@TimeformUSfigs
 
cj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,828
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlsoEligible View Post
Do most racetracks even play the anthem before racing? I mean, I've seen it for the big days. Triple Crown, Breeder's, etc.

But on a normal raceday, I honestly don't recall hearing it. Or at least, no one cared enough to put down their programs and stand up for it. Maybe it's more prevalent at some tracks over others?
I always thought it got played everywhere, pretty early before the card, but I could be wrong.
cj is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 04:43 PM   #9
outofthebox
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 647
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlsoEligible View Post
Do most racetracks even play the anthem before racing? I mean, I've seen it for the big days. Triple Crown, Breeder's, etc.

But on a normal raceday, I honestly don't recall hearing it. Or at least, no one cared enough to put down their programs and stand up for it. Maybe it's more prevalent at some tracks over others?
Played at every track i've been to. But like you said, seen plenty of people disregard it while watching the simulcast tv's and reading the forms.
outofthebox is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 04:45 PM   #10
elhelmete
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,738
At SA and DMR and the old HOL and LRC it's played about an hour before post and it's followed up with today's changes.
elhelmete is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 04:49 PM   #11
dilanesp
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 8,798
I have bet on horses who took a knee coming out of the gate.
dilanesp is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 05:02 PM   #12
DSB
Registered User
 
DSB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 536
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P View Post
I can see it now...

All of the riders agree while in the jock's room to line up on the track apron just prior to the playing of the anthem, and kneel once playing of the anthem commences.

-jp.
If this scenario ever played out, ICE should be called immediately and turned loose on the backstretch.

That would be the last time the jocks pulled that nonsense.
DSB is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 05:34 PM   #13
VigorsTheGrey
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,553
It is really difficult to have a conversation about racial issues because there is so much political correctness now...and this is especially true when it comes to language use itself...I never know what the current PC and appropriate language to use when referring to "persons of color"...Don't know if it is ok to say "black people" or "African-Americans" or "person of color" (as if "white" is not a color")....

In the NFL case, it seems to be a "you fill in the blank" issue stemming from recent white/ black tensions initially unrelated to the NFL...The NFL has been used as a stage for the grandstanding, showcasing, of social/ political tensions originally extraneous to the NFL...The travails of Colin K., who initiated the bent knee phenom, has transformed him into a galvanizing type of wounded hero-warrior or disrespectful figurehead for these issues depending on one's opinion...

The Sport of Racing is very different...there doesn't seem to be a very high percentage of black Americans involved in the limelight spots for there to be much of a protest....but there is a large percentage of Latinos present in the jockey, trainer, owners levels, who, if they chose to align themselves with the protestors, could definitely make a similar social statement...if they indeed chose to use their work venues to grandstand larger social tensions...
VigorsTheGrey is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 05:56 PM   #14
Clocker
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 17,095
Quote:
Originally Posted by elhelmete View Post
Of all the professional sporting events I've gone to, horse racing by far has the least % of people standing and removing their hats for the flag/anthem.
That varies depending on the region. I have been to tracks where I would worry about getting beaten, if not shot, if I was sitting and/or wearing a hat during the anthem.
__________________
A man's got to know his limitations. -- Dirty Harry
Clocker is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 09-29-2017, 06:33 PM   #15
Ruffian1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 854
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlsoEligible View Post
"If our athletes are on their knees, we'll shoot them in the head."

If you ever had to witness a horse having to be put down, I doubt you would make light of it.
Ruffian1 is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply





Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wh deserves to be the favorite? (last 4 figures)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2023 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.