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06-21-2018, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Not unless the business has a presence in the state where the item was ordered. I order business supplies constantly from out of state that are not for resale and I do not use a resale card to buy them and never pay sales tax. Let me guess, you are another liberal talking out of your ass, what a shock.
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I know what the rule is.
No way you're that smart. My statement is fact having nothing to do with politics. Look it up. Of course they don't cheat like you do.
I'll bet you're real proud of being a scumbag conservative thief.
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06-21-2018, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing
I know what the rule is.
No way you're that smart. My statement is fact having nothing to do with politics. Look it up. Of course they don't cheat like you do.
I'll bet you're real proud of being a scumbag conservative thief.
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It would be a simple question and answer if all the states played by the same rules. Personal experience with internet purchases could be completely different in different states. In the People's Republic of California we get dinged on everything and if by chance we slip through the cracks for a purchase or 2 we are required to pay the uncollected tax with our income tax returns. The volunteer rate on the uncollected sales tax mirrors the percentage of winnings volunteered from bets not requiring a W-2G.
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06-21-2018, 08:34 PM
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Location: Reno, NV
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Originally Posted by AndyC
It would be a simple question and answer if all the states played by the same rules. Personal experience with internet purchases could be completely different in different states. In the People's Republic of California we get dinged on everything and if by chance we slip through the cracks for a purchase or 2 we are required to pay the uncollected tax with our income tax returns. The volunteer rate on the uncollected sales tax mirrors the percentage of winnings volunteered from bets not requiring a W-2G.
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California really is nuts about taxes.
Most Octobers we drive to Monterrey for a few days. One year we received a notice from the California Hwy patrol that demanded we register our vehicle in the state of CA because we had been "seen" several times driving around Monterrey.
They asked that we call the CHP to verify that we did not live in California.
When I called, the officer demanded that I prove we still lived in Nevada by faxing him a current power bill.
I asked:
Where was the demand letter sent? "Reno, NV"
Am I calling from a NV number? "Yes."
"Why should I have to prove that I was on vacation?"
Just nuts.
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06-21-2018, 09:36 PM
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Tell the CHP that you are functionally literate, which mean you could not possibly live in California.
OR, tell them you are seeking sanctuary.
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06-21-2018, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Tell the CHP that you are functionally literate, which mean you could not possibly live in California.
OR, tell them you are seeking sanctuary.
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LOL - Better answers than all my engagement.
I actually asked the CHP guy if people actually send you power bills, etc. His response was to laugh and say, "Not very often."
After that, we had a nice discussion about how he'd rather be in a car that working on this stupid "license plate crap." (His words.)
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06-22-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
LOL - Better answers than all my engagement.
I actually asked the CHP guy if people actually send you power bills, etc. His response was to laugh and say, "Not very often."
After that, we had a nice discussion about how he'd rather be in a car that working on this stupid "license plate crap." (His words.)
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06-22-2018, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Not unless the business has a presence in the state where the item was ordered. I order business supplies constantly from out of state that are not for resale and I do not use a resale card to buy them and never pay sales tax. Let me guess, you are another liberal talking out of your ass, what a shock.
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Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing
I know what the rule is.
No way you're that smart. My statement is fact having nothing to do with politics. Look it up. Of course they don't cheat like you do.
I'll bet you're real proud of being a scumbag conservative thief.
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Do explain on how I am a scum bag and a thief. Typical liberal, I caught you talking out your ass, now you resort to name calling.
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06-22-2018, 02:28 PM
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States Don't Have Much Leverage
I think in the states that do charge sales taxes on out of state web sites there is usually a sales volume threshold amount before the web site is required to charge sales taxes, such as $100,000 of sales into that remote state. I know that the Tennessee legislature had a plan for taxing sales if the web site sold more than $500,000 into Tennessee. That should affect only a very few major web sellers. They shelved the plan until they resolved this court case. They will probably bring it up again. So not all web sites will be forced to collect the sales taxes.
As a practical matter, if I’m a small to medium sized owner of a web site in Missouri for example, and I sell into California, what are they going to do if I don’t collect and remit sales taxes to California. My company is not under the jurisdiction of California, so I could tell them to go pound sand and there is probably not much they could do about it. Until Congress makes that a federal crime, the states don’t have much leverage to exert in this matter.
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06-22-2018, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stevecsd2
I think in the states that do charge sales taxes on out of state web sites there is usually a sales volume threshold amount before the web site is required to charge sales taxes, such as $100,000 of sales into that remote state. I know that the Tennessee legislature had a plan for taxing sales if the web site sold more than $500,000 into Tennessee. That should affect only a very few major web sellers. They shelved the plan until they resolved this court case. They will probably bring it up again. So not all web sites will be forced to collect the sales taxes.
As a practical matter, if I’m a small to medium sized owner of a web site in Missouri for example, and I sell into California, what are they going to do if I don’t collect and remit sales taxes to California. My company is not under the jurisdiction of California, so I could tell them to go pound sand and there is probably not much they could do about it. Until Congress makes that a federal crime, the states don’t have much leverage to exert in this matter.
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Your customers owe the sales tax, not you.
The court decided you couldn’t wash your hands if they decide to cheat, Ponticus.
This is an interesting prism to hold onto economic beliefs. I have often seen (and agreed with) the arguement that the government shouldn’t decide winners and losers. Yet here, when the court decided that in situ and remote retailers should be held to the same standard, the alleged conservative argument seems to be the opposite.
Just admit you don’t want to pay taxes. Period.
There really isn’t a “conservative” argument in opposition to this decision. Either you don’t want states to be able to make their own decisions on appropriate tax rates (state rights) or you want there to be separate rules that favor retailers who don’t collect taxes (government finger on the scales).
The court said the later wasn’t the case.
You can’t be against this decision and call yourself a conservative. Feel free to be a hypocrite miser if that’s what you want to live out your life as. Just don’t try to paint yourself as anything else.
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