Aaron Judge closing in on AL home run record

[Half Smoke]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe

So what's wrong if everyone in baseball was on drugs.....

Even high school and college kids were on it....

It was the era......

but now its looked down on....what hypocrites!!!

not true and there is no hypocrisy

the MLB banned steroids in 1991

they probably weren't banned earlier because not enough was known about them

Bonds hit 73 in 2001 - long after they were banned

he was a cheater - those using before 1991 were not cheaters

nothing Ruth did was cheating - it was just bad behavior - completely different


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[BroadwayJoe]

Originally Posted by Half Smoke

not true and there is no hypocrisy

the MLB banned steroids in 1991

they probably weren't banned earlier because not enough was known about them

Bonds hit 73 in 2001 - long after they were banned

he was a cheater - those using before 1991 were not cheaters

nothing Ruth did was cheating - it was just bad behavior - completely different


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Try that in todays times....

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe

and a women chaser .....

but thats all ok ...they allowed it

So what's wrong if everyone in baseball was on drugs.....

Even high school and college kids were on it....

It was the era......

but now its looked down on....what hypocrites!!!

Who are you calling a hypocrite?


I knew there was rampant cheating, Bond was the most obvious for the way he looked and how quickly he ballooned up. I was around plenty of steroid users back in the day and could spot them a mile away. As long as the guys weren't looking like professional body builders a lot of fans thought they were clean.

[BroadwayJoe]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Who are you calling a hypocrite?


I knew there was rampant cheating, Bond was the most obvious for the way he looked and how quickly he ballooned up. I was around plenty of steroid users back in the day and could spot them a mile away. As long as the guys weren't looking like professional body builders a lot of fans thought they were clean.

Not you Dirt...Baseball

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe

So what's wrong if everyone in baseball was on drugs.....

Even high school and college kids were on it....

It was the era......

but now its looked down on....what hypocrites!!!

Yeah, lets just legalize everything that's illegal (the left is already letting dangerous criminals right out of jail...free), all part of the "rethinking of National pride.
One thing that's refreshing to know, none of these steroid bangers will ever be even close to the hall of fame. That's priceless, where record books are virtually worthless.

[BroadwayJoe]

Heres an article where both Bonds and Clemons are both getting votes..

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/w...than-it-seems/

[Half Smoke]

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the before and after of Mark McGwire is even more head turning

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[Half Smoke]

Originally Posted by Half Smoke

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the before and after of Mark McGwire is even more head turning

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https://i.imgur.com/Fk6bFEO.png






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here it is:


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[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Half Smoke

here it is:


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From years of going to power lighting gyms where a lot of juicers hung out
and comparing the clean guys like me to the cheaters I learned the easiest way to spot them is the trapezius muscles. They join the neck to the shoulders. No matter how smart and hard you work them, they don't get to looking like you have no neck unless you are juicing, even on guys like Mike Tyson that could naturally grow muscles like weeds.


Playing football through college, I noticed a general lots of differences between races, as far as developing speed, strength and size. Of course now you would be called RACIST for stating those truths.



I will use one thing most don't think about, remember Roberto Duran?

Looking at him would you think he would have 70 knock outs in his career.
That is an ethnicity that can be a hell of a lot stronger than they look.
I used to box as a heavyweight amateur on and off for many years. I can remember seeing an opponent from south of the border and almost laughing at what he looked liked, till the SOB hit me, then I got serious.

[PalaceOfFortLarned]

Never really been a big baseball fan, but do like the highlights and certainly we all enjoy the long ball.

The Judge is truly special, and an easy guy to root for even though he plays for the damn Yankees.

[Half Smoke]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

Playing football through college,

I played NCAAB hoops for a small college - leading scorer on freshmen team

played 1 year varsity had conflict with Coach and left the school

I can't brag too much - I wasn't great - so many better than me

but one thing I can brag about - some of the players I got to be out on the court with:



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Austin Carr - a legend - got out on the playground courts with him

Billy Knight - college All America - NBA and ABA all star - our college played Pitt - I don't know why - it was crazy - they had 35,000 students - we had 2,600

my claim to fame - I had a 3 point play on Billy - the funny thing is - he didn't foul me - he didn't even touch me - just came close - but the ref called it

Kermit Washington - AU was in our conference - his legacy is mixed



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[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Half Smoke

Kermit Washington - AU was in our conference - his legacy is mixed

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All he is to me is they guy that sucker punched Rudy T.



I got a life long memory tackling Hoby Brenner in High School who went on to star at USC and played for the New Orleans Saints as a tight end for a dozen years. That was back when spearing was legal. I got him pretty good at the price of two cracked neck bones. Neck still hurts sometimes, and my head only moves 25-50% of a normal person. In High School, they just used him as a bull dozing fullback. Their team sucked but had another future long term pro starter offensive tackle Keith Van Horn. They were like the cellar dwellers in our league and we were a perennial play-off team. The last year I played we lost in round 3 of the play-offs. No one from my team even did a damn thing in college. I had the physical tools, but it was combined with a football I.Q. of zero. I used to help teammates with their homework, they always wonder how I could be so smart in the classroom and so dumb on a football field. Some people have field vision, I had field blindness. I was the guy the coaches yanked around by the face mask and yelled at on a regular basis. That was fine back in the day also.

[Half Smoke]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I got a life long memory tackling Hoby Brenner in High School who went on to star at USC and played for the New Orleans Saints as a tight end for a dozen years. That was back when spearing was legal. I got him pretty good at the price of two cracked neck bones. Neck still hurts sometimes, and my head only moves 25-50% of a normal person. In High School, they just used him as a bull dozing fullback. Their team sucked but had another future long term pro starter offensive tackle Keith Van Horn. They were like the cellar dwellers in our league and we were a perennial play-off team. The last year I played we lost in round 3 of the play-offs. No one from my team even did a damn thing in college. I had the physical tools, but it was combined with a football I.Q. of zero. I used to help teammates with their homework, they always wonder how I could be so smart in the classroom and so dumb on a football field. Some people have field vision, I had field blindness. I was the guy the coaches yanked around by the face mask and yelled at on a regular basis. That was fine back in the day also.

very interesting to read memories - thanks for that


the most amazing thing I remember from my past in hoops were the playground players

so many, who messed up somehow and never played organized ball beyond h.s. were so great

Division 1 NCAA players who averaged about 18 p.p.g. would come to the playground and get beat and beat bad by these playground nobodies

they couldn't handle them at all


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[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Half Smoke

very interesting to read memories - thanks for that


the most amazing thing I remember from my past in hoops were the playground players

so many, who messed up somehow and never played organized ball were so great

Division 1 NCAA players who averaged about 18 p.p.g. would come to the playground and get beat and beat bad by these playground nobodies

they couldn't handle them at all


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We had a guy on our High School team who was destined for greatness, he blew away all the previous state scoring records. Only the ABA had a 3 point line back then. He liked to let it fly from deep, and was Steph Curry accurate.
He made the mistake of going to USC and Bob Boyd didn't believe in his style wanting no shooting beyond 15 feet and tried to reign him in, that didn't mesh, so he quit before the season started and went to play baseball. He had been drafted by the California Angels. He was a pitcher and got an arm injury
was never the same, never making it out of class A in 6 years. A couple years into baseball he went back to USC and got no more than garbage time minutes for two years and left. After baseball ended he went to a small now defunct college in Kansas and played basketball again, but no longer had it.


All I knew about was seeing him on TV while watching a USC game, all
the rest I got was from a big article in the LA Times many years later.
He could have went to any college in the country, picking USC was dumb, but he wanted to stay close to home. Who knows, if he went to UNLV and
played for Tark and that open offense, he could have made it to the pros.
LaSalle with Paul Westhead and his run and gun would have been a perfect fit.



Maybe those playground stars just want to do their own thing and don't
want to play in a system.

[Half Smoke]

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some of them were called by nicknames

one was called "Chicken Breast" - I think he had 2 kids by the time he was 17 - only 6'2" tall
he could go up very close to the top of the backboard back when almost nobody could

another was called "Superman"

Superman was only 5'11" and had legs like tree trunks

he hung around the low post and dunked from a stand still on anybody who tried him - kinna like Wilt__________(~:/


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