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12-06-2021, 01:38 PM
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Claiming Crown Observations
In playing this year's Claiming Crown, it seems like 90% of runners are Florida based horses. Since Aqueduct was still running their Fall meet, New York horses, jockeys and trainers were missing.
I live in Minnesota and was at the first Claiming Crown, as well as all the others in Minnesota. About half were Minnesota based, the rest came from all over---CA, KY, NY, IL and others.
It was like a minor Breeders Cup.
Canterbury claimed they lost money holding it.
Originally it was to rotate to other tracks, with Canterbury holding it every other year.
Gulfstream rescued it from certain death.
Saturday felt like a bunch starter allowances--which the Claiming Crown is--with huge purses for Florida based horses.
Maybe they need to run it a month later, or go back to rotating with other tracks every other year.
This is not a rant or complaint, since I did have a winning day.
***** ******** ***********
Now a question, or rant if you will.
Did you notice that GP had a 6-10 minute lag time before loading the horses?
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12-06-2021, 02:04 PM
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I was at Canterbury for a CC day and it was a great time. Just lucky to passs through that day.
Regarding Saturday, amazing fow Saffie Joseph cannot win a race in NY cleans up at Gulfstream. I guess someone has to take Jorge Navarros place.
I jumped on the Saffi and Paco lopez bandwagon and did ok.
Paco takes a lot of crap but is is a smart strong rider. Zayes as well.
It is a fun series for sure.
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12-06-2021, 02:19 PM
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Not sure why E. Prado couldn't get at least one mount for the entire day?
I think I'd fire his agent if I were him.
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12-06-2021, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by delfman
Not sure why E. Prado couldn't get at least one mount for the entire day?
I think I'd fire his agent if I were him.
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If you watched him ride the last few years you'd know. he's 7% this year
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12-06-2021, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1mileto7Fcutback
If you watched him ride the last few years you'd know. he's 7% this year
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well I'm sure he is 7% for the year due to the fact he is not getting live horses. He had a fine year last year riding at GP.
2020 445
53 46 64 $1,823,184 $4,097 12% 37%
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12-06-2021, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by delfman
well I'm sure he is 7% for the year due to the fact he is not getting live horses. He had a fine year last year riding at GP.
2020 445
53 46 64 $1,823,184 $4,097 12% 37%
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Why do you think he's not getting live horses?
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12-06-2021, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1mileto7Fcutback
Why do you think he's not getting live horses?
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if you read my posts you would know the answer to that question.
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12-06-2021, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by delfman
if you read my posts you would know the answer to that question.
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Because of his agent?
He's a shell of his former self. He can't ride anymore. If he could, he'd be getting live mounts regardless of who his agent is
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12-06-2021, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1mileto7Fcutback
Because of his agent?
He's a shell of his former self. He can't ride anymore. If he could, he'd be getting live mounts regardless of who his agent is
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this looks like a pretty good ride on a 28-1 shot 2 weeks ago.
https://www.equibase.com/premium/eqb...AY=D&STYLE=EQB
GULFSTREAM PAR/K - November 21, 2021 - Race 4
MAIDEN CLAIMING - Thoroughbred
FOR MAIDENS, TWO YEARS OLD. Weight, 118 lbs. Claiming Price $16,000.Claiming Price:$16,000
About Five And One Half Furlongs On The All Weather Track
Purse:$23,000
ON JET HEIR broke sharply from the gate and led early, stalked to the turn, edged ahead through the turn, shook clear into the stretch and drew off under
brisk handling.
Last edited by delfman; 12-06-2021 at 03:28 PM.
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12-06-2021, 03:29 PM
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So he rode one horse well.
He was great at one point. Numbers don't lie. 7% is 7%, especially when you consider what he's been riding against for the past 8 months.
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12-12-2021, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGalt1
In playing this year's Claiming Crown, it seems like 90% of runners are Florida based horses. Since Aqueduct was still running their Fall meet, New York horses, jockeys and trainers were missing.
I live in Minnesota and was at the first Claiming Crown, as well as all the others in Minnesota. About half were Minnesota based, the rest came from all over---CA, KY, NY, IL and others.
It was like a minor Breeders Cup.
Canterbury claimed they lost money holding it.
Originally it was to rotate to other tracks, with Canterbury holding it every other year.
Gulfstream rescued it from certain death.
Saturday felt like a bunch starter allowances--which the Claiming Crown is--with huge purses for Florida based horses.
Maybe they need to run it a month later, or go back to rotating with other tracks every other year.
This is not a rant or complaint, since I did have a winning day.
***** ******** ***********
Now a question, or rant if you will.
Did you notice that GP had a 6-10 minute lag time before loading the horses?
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I like the rotating with other tracks also.
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