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07-13-2017, 12:40 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Tomato Can Handicap
Being run at Delaware Saturday. That is all.
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07-13-2017, 07:11 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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-$250.00 subscription
-$3,000.00 entry
-$5,000.00 start
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-8,250.00
Prize money
$450,000 - 1st
$150,000 - 2nd
$82,500 - 3rd
$45,000 - 4th
$22,500 -5th
Yet, we have 6 horses entered. And of those six, only three have even faced Graded Stakes rivals in their last ten starts.
Song Bird is the only contender who should be under 20-1 in a real Grade 1.
The #6 Hone In should running for a tag somewhere, but if she can beat 1 horse in this race, she should turn a profit.
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07-14-2017, 01:11 AM
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BC Canada
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Zenyatta running? 
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07-14-2017, 02:45 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuggingTheRail
Zenyatta running? |
If Zenyatta was running we know Rachel wouldn't be
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07-14-2017, 03:10 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Some nice horses aren't running because Songbird is. Only a day out, they thought only 2 others were entering. If she romps here impressively, there may be few takers in the Personal Ensign too.
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07-14-2017, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
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I haven't been following that story.
Did everyone decide not to run there because Songbird was running or did it just happen to come up weak?
If I had a decent filly, I wouldn't mind 2nd money in that race and you could always hope Songbird has a bad day.
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07-14-2017, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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I was halfway hoping to see something like the following as the listed conditions:
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THE TOMATO CAN STAKES for Fillies and Mares who have never finished second or better in Graded Stakes company. 1 1/16 Miles on the Dirt. Purse $150,000. Weight 121 lbs. Weight allowance: 3 lbs. off if lifetime best Beyer does not exceed 85. Plus 2 additional lbs. off if lifetime best Beyer does not exceed 80.
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07-14-2017, 06:04 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I know it produces moral hazard and do NOT want to see Songbird driven into the rail and injured, but it would be interesting if there could be a "bounty" condition in the handicap where a NW1XG1 (NW2XG1, NW1XG2, etc., etc.) of $250,000+ could draw in some decent graded stakes winning competitors.
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07-15-2017, 06:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VeryOldMan
I know it produces moral hazard and do NOT want to see Songbird driven into the rail and injured, but it would be interesting if there could be a "bounty" condition in the handicap where a NW1XG1 (NW2XG1, NW1XG2, etc., etc.) of $250,000+ could draw in some decent graded stakes winning competitors.
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I kind of like this idea. On the flip side, writing a condition like that could hurt the race's graded status down the road.
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07-15-2017, 05:05 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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According to my power formula, Songbird should be tough.
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07-15-2017, 05:30 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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This  Weep No More's race.
She looks unbeatable on paper.
MAD MAgazine! 
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07-15-2017, 05:33 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Right now almost a million and a half to show on Songbird! Safe race everyone.
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07-15-2017, 05:47 PM
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Props to Martini Glass for her game second.
Claimed for $16K out of her maiden claiming debut. Brought the race to Songbird. And can now be advertised as Grade 2 stakes placed - to a multi-million $ winning, multiple G1 champion.
Why couldn't more owners see this sort of opportunity?
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07-15-2017, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VeryOldMan
Props to Martini Glass for her game second.
Claimed for $16K out of her maiden claiming debut. Brought the race to Songbird. And can now be advertised as Grade 2 stakes placed - to a multi-million $ winning, multiple G1 champion.
Why couldn't more owners see this sort of opportunity?
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G1 placed
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07-15-2017, 09:02 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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$1,594,737 to show.
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