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Old 02-02-2018, 02:38 PM   #151
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I hope you and Rachel Maddow know that Papadopoulos and Carter Page were both very insignificant and quite minor-figures in the Trump campaign and transition teams.

I wouldn't want you to feel embarrassed or down-right silly when both of you are exposed for knowing so very little in this absurd get-Trump farce.

Just looking out for your best interests, FanDan.
Carter Page was under a FISA it was extended after 90 days as required 3 times, each renewal requires a separate finding of probable cause. James Comey then signed 3 more FISA applications.

This is chain FISA not to surveill Page but Trump Tower itself. Lots of guilty parties involved just in FISA issues.
Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, Yates, Dana Boente justo name a few, plenty more below in rank and plenty above also.

Very sad Dannyboy is fine with corruption when PROVEN. Such as it is with
Hilary/Obama fanboys.
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Old 02-02-2018, 02:45 PM   #152
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Gotta give it to Kimmel, he's good in explaining things in layman's terms.
I found the high school yearbook picture to be especially informative in explaining the issues.

I watched about half of that and gave up because it was the usual uninformed rant about those dirty bastages on the other side. And a lot of people on both sides are guilty of this, driven by emotion and ignorance.
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:02 PM   #153
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:52 PM   #154
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Hey, Fanny, write to this brainiac and tell him to bring on all that "missing" data. Let it see the light of day! As I wrote last night, this is the dimwits' once-in-a-lifetime golden opportunity to take down Trump, Nunez and the Republican Party. And wouldn't this monumental takedown guarantee their takeover of the WH in '20 and the Senate and Congress later this year?

I say it again...the Dems, the DOJ and/or FBI need to rescue all that critically missing data from the darkenss of the Swamp, so that we can all see it and understand it rightly. How can you beloved Party of Evil not capitalize on this "constitutional crisis" and save America?
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:26 PM   #155
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evidence

Hearsay to the nth degree is not sufficient evidence for fisa
These people will rue the day they said more evidence it will only get worse and worse
and why are they quitting left and right --- retirement hell no take it all away from them

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Old 02-02-2018, 04:35 PM   #156
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Dan Bongino ties most of it together, but it is too complicated for the dim americans to understand. It shows how the DNC, 0bama and top national security workers used FISA to help divert attention away from their illegal actions and try to pin it on Trump to get him out before their treachery exposed...

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Old 02-02-2018, 05:26 PM   #159
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Wow! Did Nunez and Trump collude or worse yet...conspire?

Have you contacted you congress critters urging them to release all the data that is missing in the memo?
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:27 PM   #160
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Hey remember when @RepDevinNunes was forced to recuse himself from the Russia investigation last year for lying and engaging in a coverup on behalf of Trump? But then he didn't recuse himself and he lied again while engaging in another coverup on behalf of Trump?
Hey, remember when Obama said if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?

Attacking Nunes isn't going to change the facts. The memo says that DOJ and the FBI knowingly submitted opposition research paid for by the Democrats, but did not disclose the origin in the FISA application. If that is true, no amount of deflection with personal attacks is going to change that or make it any less serious.
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I do not remember Nunes being forced to recuse himself. I remember him stepping aside while the ethics committee investigated his actions (on urging by dims). But my memory is not clouded like Schiffs...
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:29 PM   #162
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Wow! Did Nunez and Trump collude or worse yet...conspire?

Have you contacted you congress critters urging them to release all the data that is missing in the memo?

yes there was more than 1 person so they CONSPIRED to expose the lawlessness and corruption by 0bamas, DNC and Hillary crew...
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:33 PM   #163
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I found the high school yearbook picture to be especially informative in explaining the issues.

I watched about half of that and gave up because it was the usual uninformed rant about those dirty bastages on the other side. And a lot of people on both sides are guilty of this, driven by emotion and ignorance.
Not saying he's right about anything, he's just better than wacko Colbert.
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Hey remember when Danny boy was the smartest guy around here?

Me neither
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This is the big point here, at least so far. The issue is the slimy process used to get the FISA warrant. It seems clear that the warrant would not have been obtained without the Steele dossier.
That only seems clear because the memo omits all the other evidence used to justify the warrants. It omits the fact that Page had been on the FBI radar since 2013.

The DOJ and the FBI knew that the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Democrats, but did not disclose that origin in the FISA application.
There are reports that the FISA court was informed of the political context of the Steele dossier.


The FISA Application also cited a Michael Isikoff article (Yahoo News) as "corroborating information" for the Steele dossier, knowing that the Isikoff article was based on information leaked to Isikoff by Steele.

After getting the warrant, the FBI fired Steele for breaking rules of confidentiality, but continued to use the dossier as evidence to get extensions on the warrant.
The memo claims the dossier was the only source for the surveillance approved by the FISA Court. The Democrats, the FBI, and the Justice Department claim that other evidence was presented that was ignored by the memo.

The memo claims that the FISA Court was unaware of the origins of the Steele dossier. Yet there are sources who claim that information was presented to the FISA court.

The memo claims that Steele was fired by the FBI casting doubt on the veracity of the information he provided. But he was fired for violating confidentiality agreements; not for falsifying information. In fact, Steele has a stellar reputation world wide.
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