Terror Attacks in Paris

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by ebcorde

They closed all the borders

A little late for that, eh?

[Kash$]

Just recently our commander and chief said isiss was contained..

[Tom]

If we want to end ISIS in the Middle East, we have use other sworn enemies of eliminate them. You know, Iran, Hezbollah, the Shiites, and the Russians.

Nonsense.
Enemies are enemies. Only fools trust them.
You and Barry and Kerry.
knuck knuck knuck.

Get in line behind France - I suspect they have a far better strategy then the Ass Clown will ever have.

And the tragedy last night occurred in a gun-free zone.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Kash$

Just recently our commander and chief said isiss was contained..

Hard to contain the JV's.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

make no mistake about it, the blame here goes to Bush for starting the job and not finishing it. if he had taken care of business, the guy we have now could not have screwed it up like he has now.

Several points on this.

1. Bush made a huge mistake going into Iraq (which Hillary and the democrats also voted for)

2. Obama made a huge mistake withdrawing from Iraq fully and creating a vacuum into which the extremists took control.

Think of this way. There's a fire on your block that was started by some fool smoking in bed. The firemen didn't start it. It's not their fault. But now that they are on the scene it's their job to put it out. If they make a series of mistakes and it spreads to a few other blocks, we can look back at the smoker, but we also have to look at the incompetency of the fire department.

[Kash$]

Originally Posted by Tom

Hard to contain the JV's.

But Tom hes our President

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...pzwe2N_zm1xKfw

[B]Friday on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” President Barack Obama seemingly downplayed the threat of ISIS in an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that aired on Friday’s broadcast of “Good Morning America.”

Stephanopoulos asked Obama if ISIS was gaining in strength, to which Obama denied they were.

“I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” Obama responded. “What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq, and in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave, but you don’t see this systemic march by ISIL across the terrain.”

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by ebcorde

My solution was always NO MILITARY AID, example: where's ISIS get the endless supply of ammo?

They get it by capturing Iraq army bases. They get funding by capturing Iraq banks and businesses, and by capturing oil wells and selling the oil on the black market. They get funding from filthy rich Sunni oil sheikhs in the Gulf States who support the ISIS war on Shiites.

[classhandicapper]

The problem is that our adversary is trying to establish something that is in direct conflict with the way western democracies would like to organize civilization. If we sit idly by, they will continue raping, killing, and beheading those that disagree them, including people of the same religion because they just happened to be from a different tribe with slightly different rules.

So do you sit back, eat some popcorn, and watch the mayhem in the middle east as they get stronger and become a bigger threat?

Or do you do something about it?

That should be an easy question to answer. The next question is what to do. That's a tougher one to answer. But one thing even a child should be able to figure out is that you don't open your borders to them. If you do, x% of the hundreds of thousands that come will either be terrorists or sympathetic to their cause and easily recruited. They will bring Paris to NY, LA, Chicago, Detroit etc... soon after.

Time to grow up boys and girls.

There is a world we would like to live in and there is a world we DO live in. We are at WAR with perhaps a small subset of Islam, but it is NOT a handful of radicals. They are not at war with us simply because we have a presence in the middle east. They are at war with us because they want to change the world. Western culture, other religions, moderate Muslims and just about everyone else is in their way. And they are willing to die and kill you for it.

If this president throws the borders open to 100s of thousand of Syrians it will confirm my worst beliefs about him. No one on earth with a functioning brain can be that stupid in times of war.

[cbp]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Several points on this.

1. Bush made a huge mistake going into Iraq (which Hillary and the democrats also voted for)

2. Obama made a huge mistake withdrawing from Iraq fully and creating a vacuum into which the extremists took control.

Think of this way. There's a fire on your block that was started by some fool smoking in bed. The firemen didn't start it. It's not their fault. But now that they are on the scene it's their job to put it out. If they make a series of mistakes and it spreads to a few other blocks, we can look back at the smoker, but we also have to look at the incompetency of the fire department.

Think of it this way:

A guy out in California has a kid who's getting bullied at school. You quit your job, leave your wife and kids and head over to California to beat up the bullies that are bullying this dude's kids.

[Tom]

But Tom hes our President

Not mine, I reject him.
I fell I have no president.
Fellings count, jut ask YOUR president.

He is a clueless slug.

Now get out of my safe spot.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The problem is that our adversary is trying to establish something that is in direct conflict with the way western democracies would like to organize civilization.

The socialist democracies in the EU have been operating for years under the assumption that immigrants can be assimilated, resulting in a stronger multi-cultural society.

The problem is that many Muslims in the EU don't want to be assimilated into western culture. They live in self-imposed Muslim ghettos and their ultimate goal is to establish Sharia law.

Some EU leaders are finally coming to the realization that multiculturalism doesn't work, but others, like Angela Merkel, persist.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Tom

And the tragedy last night occurred in a gun-free zone.

Example numero uno for why gun control laws don't work in this day and age. If a couple people in that theater had guns on them, maybe 100 would not have died.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Tom

And the tragedy last night occurred in a gun-free zone.

Yeah, the EU.

[Tall One]

Surprised open borders with no emphasis on assimilation isn't working out.

Bash Trump all you want, but he has been 100% correct about the illegal immigration problem and now we're letting thousands more of these Syrian animals inside our borders. Seems the countries that have been the most accomodating of Muslims are the ones that feel the consequences of that generosity.

[ebcorde]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

The problem is that our adversary is trying to establish something that is in direct conflict with the way western democracies would like to organize civilization.
If this president throws the borders open to 100s of thousand of Syrians it will confirm my worst beliefs about him. No one on earth with a functioning brain can be that stupid in times of war.

I can't figure you guys out. yesterday a lot of you supported Ben Carson starting a war over Russian planes in Syria.

at the republican debate it was "oh mon dieu" the debt, the debt, the economy, the economy.


today it's back to "what ever it takes $2-3 trillion whatever" and we all know this country can't chew gum and walk at the same time, so the economy will be destroyed that's a given.


but for a solution, you can start by stopping all travel and cut off internet traffic with the middle east, the mullahs send their message out via internet. But we all know that won't happen , big business will say no.