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Old 12-20-2023, 03:21 PM   #1
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Dems step on their Dicks again

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Old 12-20-2023, 05:12 PM   #2
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It's further democrap election interference... they fear us and the thought of losing power and control. It's quite sickening and rather disgusting the length the left will go to maintain their grip. Time to beat their cold dead finger with a ballpeen hammer.
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Old 12-20-2023, 05:17 PM   #3
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they need judges to make the hard decisions ... like Letitia's summary judgement ... that is how they will save 'their' democracy

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Old 12-21-2023, 01:02 AM   #4
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The Colorado Supreme Court addresses every one of Dershowitz ‘s arguments in its decision and makes him look like an incompetent fool in the process.

Dershowitz argues that the text of the amendment does not apply to presidential candidates. But the amendment prohibits persons who have engaged in insurrection from serving in a Federal office. And the Coostitution gives states the power to conduct their elections, which includes federal elections in that state. Colorado election code gives the Colorado Secretary of State the power to determine eligibility and remove from the ballot candidates who fail to meet those criteria.

Then Dershowitz says “The language of the amendment only applies to politicians who have taken the congressional oath -- not the presidential oath. The text specifies an oath to 'support' the Constitution, which is the operative word in the congressional oath. The operative words in the presidential oath are 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution.”.

Talk about ANTICS WITH SEMANTICS. You can’t preserve, protect and defend something without supporting it. And it is ridiculous to suggest that the Section three of the 14th Amendment only applied to members of Congress.

Dershowitz goes on to say “ This is a technical distinction but coupled with the absence of the word 'president' and the presence of the words 'senator or representative', it cannot be said with certainty that the framers of the amendment intended for it to provide for the disqualification of candidates for the highest office in the land.”

True, the word President is not in Section three of the 14th Amendment, but the words “Officer of the United States “ are. And the President is certainly an officer of the United States. He is referred to that way 25 times in the Constitution itself.


Under the terms of the Colorado Election Code Section 1-1-113, the state courts of Colorado do indeed have the power to rule on cases of this sort. According to the Constitution, states have the right to conduct elections within their borders. The 14th Amendment prohibits a person who has previously taken a oath to support the Constitution from holding Federal office if they engaged in insurrection. Donald Trump engaged in insurrection. Therefore he is not qualified to be President and is not qualified to be on the ballot.
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The Colorado Supreme Court addresses every one of Dershowitz ‘s arguments in its decision and makes him look like an incompetent fool in the process.

Dershowitz argues that the text of the amendment does not apply to presidential candidates. But the amendment prohibits persons who have engaged in insurrection from serving in a Federal office. And the Coostitution gives states the power to conduct their elections, which includes federal elections in that state. Colorado election code gives the Colorado Secretary of State the power to determine eligibility and remove from the ballot candidates who fail to meet those criteria.

Then Dershowitz says “The language of the amendment only applies to politicians who have taken the congressional oath -- not the presidential oath. The text specifies an oath to 'support' the Constitution, which is the operative word in the congressional oath. The operative words in the presidential oath are 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution.”.

Talk about ANTICS WITH SEMANTICS. You can’t preserve, protect and defend something without supporting it. And it is ridiculous to suggest that the Section three of the 14th Amendment only applied to members of Congress.

Dershowitz goes on to say “ This is a technical distinction but coupled with the absence of the word 'president' and the presence of the words 'senator or representative', it cannot be said with certainty that the framers of the amendment intended for it to provide for the disqualification of candidates for the highest office in the land.”

True, the word President is not in Section three of the 14th Amendment, but the words “Officer of the United States “ are. And the President is certainly an officer of the United States. He is referred to that way 25 times in the Constitution itself.


Under the terms of the Colorado Election Code Section 1-1-113, the state courts of Colorado do indeed have the power to rule on cases of this sort. According to the Constitution, states have the right to conduct elections within their borders. The 14th Amendment prohibits a person who has previously taken a oath to support the Constitution from holding Federal office if they engaged in insurrection. Donald Trump engaged in insurrection. Therefore he is not qualified to be President and is not qualified to be on the ballot.
EXACTLY, say have you adopted any of Chicago's new resldents? It would only be progessive of you to let a few live with you.
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The Colorado Supreme Court addresses every one of Dershowitz ‘s arguments in its decision and makes him look like an incompetent fool in the process.

Dershowitz argues that the text of the amendment does not apply to presidential candidates. But the amendment prohibits persons who have engaged in insurrection from serving in a Federal office. And the Coostitution gives states the power to conduct their elections, which includes federal elections in that state. Colorado election code gives the Colorado Secretary of State the power to determine eligibility and remove from the ballot candidates who fail to meet those criteria.

Then Dershowitz says “The language of the amendment only applies to politicians who have taken the congressional oath -- not the presidential oath. The text specifies an oath to 'support' the Constitution, which is the operative word in the congressional oath. The operative words in the presidential oath are 'preserve, protect and defend' the Constitution.”.

Talk about ANTICS WITH SEMANTICS. You can’t preserve, protect and defend something without supporting it. And it is ridiculous to suggest that the Section three of the 14th Amendment only applied to members of Congress.

Dershowitz goes on to say “ This is a technical distinction but coupled with the absence of the word 'president' and the presence of the words 'senator or representative', it cannot be said with certainty that the framers of the amendment intended for it to provide for the disqualification of candidates for the highest office in the land.”

True, the word President is not in Section three of the 14th Amendment, but the words “Officer of the United States “ are. And the President is certainly an officer of the United States. He is referred to that way 25 times in the Constitution itself.


Under the terms of the Colorado Election Code Section 1-1-113, the state courts of Colorado do indeed have the power to rule on cases of this sort. According to the Constitution, states have the right to conduct elections within their borders. The 14th Amendment prohibits a person who has previously taken a oath to support the Constitution from holding Federal office if they engaged in insurrection. Donald Trump engaged in insurrection. Therefore he is not qualified to be President and is not qualified to be on the ballot.
Musty, please show us where Trump was convicted of "insurrection". Better yet, please show us where Trump was even charged with insurrection. Of all the dozens of phony charges against Trump, your Marxist heroes could not stretch the law that far.

There is a much better case that your zero hero Biden has given aid and comfort to our enemies. Look for states to reciprocate and remove China Joe from state ballots.
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Donald Trump engaged in insurrection.
He most certainly did not.

Not even in liberal fantasyland.
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The Colorado Supreme Court addresses every one of Dershowitz ‘s arguments in its decision and makes him look like an incompetent fool in the process. .
You should have stopped right there.

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He most certainly did not.

Not even in liberal fantasyland.
Come on man... MoPo is the definition of a Lying Dog Face... Phony Solder.
A parrot of party propaganda... a humanoid septic tank open to digesting any and all manner of shit the Rats and their pack of digital whore's drip out... MoPo dutifully licked it up and tries to infect others with the BS.
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True, the word President is not in Section three of the 14th Amendment, but the words “Officer of the United States “ are. And the President is certainly an officer of the United States. He is referred to that way 25 times in the Constitution itself.
The Founding Fathers specifically applied this amendment to include the Senate and Congress, had wanted this to apply to the POTUS, they would have been more specific and listed the President in the amendment as well - they did not.

There is also the issue that President Trump has not been charged or convicted of insurrection. This will be overturned by the Supreme Court.
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Come on man... MoPo is the definition of a Lying Dog Face... Phony Solder.
A parrot of party propaganda... a humanoid septic tank open to digesting any and all manner of shit the Rats and their pack of digital whore's drip out... MoPo dutifully licked it up and tries to infect others with the BS.

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do Dems have Dicks to step on?
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do Dems have Dicks to step on?
I'm not even going to go there...because you never know these days
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Musty, please show us where Trump was convicted of "insurrection". Better yet, please show us where Trump was even charged with insurrection. Of all the dozens of phony charges against Trump, your Marxist heroes could not stretch the law that far.

There is a much better case that your zero hero Biden has given aid and comfort to our enemies. Look for states to reciprocate and remove China Joe from state ballots.
Section three of the 14th Amendment does not require that a person be convicted or even charged. The word used is engaged. If you read the decision or opened your eyes, you would see that Trump did exactly that. It only by his words and actions on Jan. 6, butt everything he said and did leading up to that date.
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Section three of the 14th Amendment does not require that a person be convicted or even charged. The word used is engaged. If you read the decision or opened your eyes, you would see that Trump did exactly that. It only by his words and actions on Jan. 6, butt everything he said and did leading up to that date.
Nope, wrong again.

The people are speaking...and they don't seem to think Trump is an insurrectionist...if they did, Joe Biden wouldn't be pissed off that he's losing to Trump in the polls, because he WOULDN'T be losing in the polls to an ACTUAL INSURRECTIONIST!!

https://newrepublic.com/post/177644/...bers-took-long
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