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06-14-2021, 09:13 AM
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It looked to me like he didn't see Informative until the horse was already by him, but I don't think a whip would have made any difference. Either way, sometimes you are going to be the guy with Informative and sometimes you are going to be the guy cashing with NYT.
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06-14-2021, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by taxicab
Wrong.
Watch Paco's head as on the turn for home......and then another half dozen times in the stretch.
He's actually steering NYT towards towards the outside runners........and then when Informative appears on the scene he steers NYT to the inside.
https://youtu.be/BJnV98CCP10 |
Have a look at my post again. I said I didn't think Lopez rode a bad race. He simply lost focus in the drive around the 1/8th pole (lack of situational awareness concerning Informative on the inside). And, if you don't see NYT's head cocked to the right, looking towards the stands as they go by the 1/8th pole; then we'll just have to disagree.
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
It looked to me like he didn't see Informative until the horse was already by him, but I don't think a whip would have made any difference. Either way, sometimes you are going to be the guy with Informative and sometimes you are going to be the guy cashing with NYT.
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Well said. 
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06-14-2021, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Scanman
Have a look at my post again. I said I didn't think Lopez rode a bad race. He simply lost focus in the drive around the 1/8th pole (lack of situational awareness concerning Informative on the inside). And, if you don't see NYT's head cocked to the right, looking towards the stands as they go by the 1/8th pole; then we'll just have to disagree.
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Huh ?
This post doesn't make sense.
It's a contextual fail.
In my two simple posts about NYT, I just stated the obvious.......they certainly weren't hard to understand.
I have no idea how you twisted them up.
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06-15-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by taxicab
Huh ?
This post doesn't make sense.
It's a contextual fail.
In my two simple posts about NYT, I just stated the obvious.......they certainly weren't hard to understand.
I have no idea how you twisted them up.
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Oh brother!!!  Difficult to have a conversation with someone who appears to be illiterate. Have to let you go.
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06-15-2021, 12:39 PM
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Of course , the track's PR is going to paint a peachy picture....
The main thing is that they DIDNT discuss it with The Jockey's Guild and the jockey's themselves....that's total DISRESPECT!!!!
Also Ferrer would be out of the top 5 if everyone was there....
So he should be happy for that..
GB
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06-15-2021, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
Of course , the track's PR is going to paint a peachy picture....
The main thing is that they DIDNT discuss it with The Jockey's Guild and the jockey's themselves....that's total DISRESPECT!!!!
Also Ferrer would be out of the top 5 if everyone was there....
So he should be happy for that..
GB
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Who/what do you mean by "they"?
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06-15-2021, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alhattab
Who/what do you mean by "they"?
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they = Monmouth (fat asses behind desks)
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06-15-2021, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
they = Monmouth (fat asses behind desks)
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I'm not sure what you're getting at. The whip rule is not Monmouth's rule. It is the NJ Racing Commission's rule. Monmouth (Drazin) has clearly stated he does not like the no whip rule, and that he'd prefer limited use promulgated on a national level (i.e., consistently across venues).
I heard one person say the rule exists because Mrs Murphy doesn't like to see the horsies get whipped. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if true. You make a deal with the Devil you play by his rules.
Last edited by alhattab; 06-15-2021 at 03:08 PM.
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06-15-2021, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by alhattab
I'm not sure what you're getting at. The whip rule is not Monmouth's rule. It is the NJ Racing Commission's rule. Monmouth (Drazin) has clearly stated he does not like the no whip rule, and that he'd prefer limited use promulgated on a national level (i.e., consistently across venues).
I heard one person say the rule exists because Mrs Murphy doesn't like to see the horsies get whipped. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if true. You make a deal with the Devil you play by his rules.
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Ok...I'm wrong......So its the fat asses at the Racing Commission
Now thats worse!!!!
Disrespected the Tracks operation and the Jockey's....
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06-15-2021, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
Of course , the track's PR is going to paint a peachy picture....
The main thing is that they DIDNT discuss it with The Jockey's Guild and the jockey's themselves....that's total DISRESPECT!!!!
Also Ferrer would be out of the top 5 if everyone was there....
So he should be happy for that..
GB
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How does this whip rule affect the best stickman at Monmouth---->Joe Bravo?
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06-15-2021, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scanman
Oh brother!!! Difficult to have a conversation with someone who appears to be illiterate. Have to let you go. |
If they put your brain in a bumblebee it would fly backwards....
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06-15-2021, 09:34 PM
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#118
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06-15-2021, 10:29 PM
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#119
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Originally Posted by therussmeister
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That's sticking them!!!
Finally a Union doing something....
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06-15-2021, 10:36 PM
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#120
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The guild is not a union. It is elite prima donnas shafting the blue collar riders. Was the same back when I was riding. The guild is a joke.
They are embarrassed they are being proven wrong about whips and safety. They use safety as a excuse to not have to hand ride only.
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