Epidemiologist: Why Lockdowns Are The Wrong Policy

[hcap]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

CDC flu counts and deaths are way overstated. Coronavirus is more contagious and way more deadly. I'm not sure why people can't comprehend how bad this thing is even if death rates were initially overestimated.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...es-to-oranges/

From your article., the author...

.Jeremy Samuel Faust, MD MS MA, is an emergency physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and an instructor at Harvard Medical School.

"I decided to call colleagues around the country who work in other emergency departments and in intensive care units to ask a simple question: how many patients could they remember dying from the flu? Most of the physicians I surveyed couldn’t remember a single one over their careers. Some said they recalled a few. All of them seemed to be having the same light bulb moment I had already experienced: For too long, we have blindly accepted a statistic that does not match our clinical experience."

Currently


Coronavirus Cases:
1,024,375
Deaths:
58,123

[PaceAdvantage]

Nobody can remember anybody dying from the flu, yet 60,000 in this country and 600,000 worldwide can die in any given year...I guess they are all dying at home...

Seriously dude...how much bullshit do you think the populace can handle?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

"Way more deadly"...only because the deaths are grossly exaggerated, as has been explained often in various threads. The bar has been set very low for establishing "cause of death".

Have you ever thought of blowing your brains out? Inhale, grab a tissue and exhale and save us the insanity of your erroneous inaccurate babblings.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Yeah, like you know.

Like ANYBODY knows...

As I said experts are more accurate than crackpots.

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by hcap

As I said experts are more accurate than crackpots.

its a close race though, if that tells you anything.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

its a close race though, if that tells you anything.

Are you siding with the crackpots?

How do you feel about 5g Cell phone towers causing covid-19, and all the hospitals in the world and physicians and medical professionals working at those institutions, organizing the "hoax" of covid-19, to fatten their bottom line?

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by boxcar

"Way more deadly"...only because the deaths are grossly exaggerated, as has been explained often in various threads. The bar has been set very low for establishing "cause of death".

I have no strong opinion about how we should be counting deaths for the virus compared to the flu or other diseases when there are multiple factors at work.

What I think is obvious is that the death rate for this is WAY higher than flu. That was the point of the article I posted. Flu deaths are wildly over counted by CDC. So even if there are some legitimate questions about how deaths should be counted for the virus, it's still wildly more deadly than flu.

I'm 61.

I know 1 person in my entire life that died from the flu. My friend's younger brother died last year. He was in his mid 50s.

I just lost 2 cousins to this virus in a matter of weeks and know other people that lost family and friends.

It shouldn't even be a controversial conversation.

I'm somewhat optimistic on the latest data and think we are going to get through this fine in a few months, but absent all the social distancing and lockdowns it would have been way worse and huge multiple of flu if both were counted exactly alike. You can see it the total deaths in NYC data, in ER activity, and from the doctors treating it. They've never seen anything close to this from any flu.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I know 1 person in my entire life that died from the flu. My friend's younger brother died last year. He was in his mid 50s.

I just lost 2 cousins to this virus in a matter of weeks and know other people that lost family and friends. This not even a conversation.

Class, yes people can BE LISTED as dying from the flu or CV, but they die of COMPLICATIONS from the flu and/or CV from other underlying preconditions that actually were the cause of death....

There's always a catalyst that's starts the death spiral. Coroners list the cause of death as whatever they are INCLINED to list, in specific cases like these.

BTW, I'm sorry for the loss of your loved ones.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Class, yes people can BE LISTED as dying from the flu or CV, but they die of COMPLICATIONS from the flu and/or CV from other underlying preconditions that actually were the cause of death....

There's always a catalyst that's starts the death spiral. Coroners list the cause of death as whatever they are INCLINED to list, in specific cases like these.

BTW, I'm sorry for the loss of your loved ones.

And with this covid-19, the official policy by the INH is to list the cause of death as the virus whenever anyone dies merely with it. That's a very low bar. Someone has a big interest in inflating the numbers.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

And with this covid-19, the official policy by the INH is to list the cause of death as the virus whenever anyone dies merely with it. That's a very low bar. Someone has a big interest in inflating the numbers.

INH?
Your talking the INH - Florida Department of Health
What do you expect?. Flori-DUH!

[Jeff P]

And here I was all these years under the mistaken impression the CDC had a duty to report accurate numbers to the public.


-jp

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[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

INH?
Your talking the INH - Florida Department of Health
What do you expect?. Flori-DUH!

I meant the NIH.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I meant the NIH.

Any documentation?

[Marshall Bennett]

I've wondered why democrats want everyone locked down and unemployed, yet airports remain open and passengers can fly together???????

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

It is a bit more precise speaking of the US. There are fears and concerns it has not really hit third world countries with compromised healthcare systems.

And as I said it ain't going away with another wave next fall , winter.

And just how does a computerized health care system prevent a contagious disease?

Maybe people infected just do not go to many s***hole countries!

My GAWD, you are so pathetic.....

Please feel free to provide SPECIF action take to stop the spread in those places......SPECIFIC or shout up.