The trend continues…..blue states losing

[JustRalph]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...r-red-n1602680

“In the competition for America’s best and brightest residents, the most populous blue states are becoming perennial losers. In 2020, New York, Illinois, California, Massachusetts, and New Jersey suffered net losses in their population, with high-earners taking their income — and tax base — with them:

New York was the biggest loser, netting a loss of almost 250,000 residents, who took with them a net of $19.5 billion in income — fully 2.5% of the state’s entire adjusted gross income (AGI) in 2019.
California did second-worst, losing a net of 263,000 residents and $17.8 billion in income.
The third biggest loser was Illinois, whose 101,000 emigrants took income worth $8.5 billion with them
Massachusetts came in fourth with a net loss of $2.6 billion.
New Jersey took fifth place with $2.3 billion in lost income.”

[Stevecsd2]

When things get bad enough, and you can't change things where they are, people vote with their feet and move.

[Al Gobbi]

only going to get worse with increased inflation, higher costs and the likely economic collapse

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...r-red-n1602680

“In the competition for America’s best and brightest residents, the most populous blue states are becoming perennial losers. In 2020, New York, Illinois, California, Massachusetts, and New Jersey suffered net losses in their population, with high-earners taking their income — and tax base — with them:

New York was the biggest loser, netting a loss of almost 250,000 residents, who took with them a net of $19.5 billion in income — fully 2.5% of the state’s entire adjusted gross income (AGI) in 2019.
California did second-worst, losing a net of 263,000 residents and $17.8 billion in income.
The third biggest loser was Illinois, whose 101,000 emigrants took income worth $8.5 billion with them
Massachusetts came in fourth with a net loss of $2.6 billion.
New Jersey took fifth place with $2.3 billion in lost income.”

What a shock. People are moving from cold weather states, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts and New Jersey to Florida, Texas, North Carolina and South Carolina-all warm weather states.

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/0...linois-and-why

In Illinois the number of people over 65 who moved out of state increased by 50%. Those are not people moving their businesses out of the state. Those are people moving to a retirement home in a warm climate.

[Cuffdaddy]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What a shock. People are moving from cold weather states, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts and New Jersey to Florida, Texas, North Carolina and South Carolina-all warm weather states.

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/0...linois-and-why

In Illinois the number of people over 65 who moved out of state increased by 50%. Those are not people moving their businesses out of the state. Those are people moving to a retirement home in a warm climate.

That is what CNN tells you, swallow hard.

Convenient to leave out the best weather location, California.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What a shock. People are moving from cold weather states, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts and New Jersey to Florida, Texas, North Carolina and South Carolina-all warm weather states.

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/0...linois-and-why

In Illinois the number of people over 65 who moved out of state increased by 50%. Those are not people moving their businesses out of the state. Those are people moving to a retirement home in a warm climate.

You left out California, go ole liberal don't tell the whole story, par for the course. How do you become an expert in your own mind after a career as a mailman, and a what a High School education? You are the only one here who doesn't see yourself as an out of touch with reality liberal homer fool.

[davew]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What a shock. People are moving from cold weather states, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts and New Jersey to Florida, Texas, North Carolina and South Carolina-all warm weather states.

https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/0...linois-and-why

In Illinois the number of people over 65 who moved out of state increased by 50%. Those are not people moving their businesses out of the state. Those are people moving to a retirement home in a warm climate.

if only they could wait a few more years, catastrophic climate disruption is going to cause all states to be 'warm' states .... of course they have to make it through next winter which will be the most expensive heating season EVER.

[JustRalph]

I wish I could go back to California in about 1945.

Best weather in the country (SoCal) population much smaller. Boom time on the horizon. Freeways almost non existent.

I would teleport tomorrow

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Cuffdaddy

That is what CNN tells you, swallow hard.

Convenient to leave out the best weather location, California.

California is falling apart so fast that it has the fifth largest economy in the world.
People are leaving California so fast that it gained 6.1% in population between 2010 and 2020.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by mostpost

People are leaving California so fast that it gained 6.1% in population between 2010 and 2020.

How many of those people were able to contribute to the economic development and improvement of the state other than as basic labor?

[P.Rosa]

Originally Posted by mostpost

California is falling apart so fast that it has the fifth largest economy in the world.
People are leaving California so fast that it gained 6.1% in population between 2010 and 2020.

"From 2010 to 2020, California’s population grew by 5.8% (or 2.4 million), according to decennial census counts. This was slower than the rate of growth in the rest of the nation (6.8%), leading to the loss of a seat in the US House of Representatives for the first time in California’s history."

https://www.ppic.org/publication/cal...as-population/

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by mostpost

California is falling apart so fast that it has the fifth largest economy in the world.
People are leaving California so fast that it gained 6.1% in population between 2010 and 2020.

Hey numb nuts, that is due to retirees and the well to do fleeing and 3rd world country poor and uneducated flooding in from the southern border.
That is a great transformation. As far as your GDP numbers you need to see the breakdown, nothing to be impressed with, a big chunk is government.
You need to put some context to your numbers, as without they are meaningless like most of the useless trash you spew.

[how cliche]

this is a post and run as there's not time to be anchored to the board in a back and forth. remiss for that. can't speak to any of the arguments put forth above. can only remark on personal circumstances and decisions in and around them.

california born and raised. middle aged married fam never lived anywhere else. tbh don't want to. have saved and invested a goodly amount for retirement. why are we looking in tx,ms,la,ga,sc,nc,va,ky,ar to move? we're soft when it comes to winters, so the south is the spot. a third of it. the cost of real estate is reasonable in those states. two thirds of it.

real estate is so expensive here we hardly ever achieve our goals if we stay and almost always do if relocating. simple really.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by how cliche

this is a post and run as there's not time to be anchored to the board in a back and forth. remiss for that. can't speak to any of the arguments put forth above. can only remark on personal circumstances and decisions in and around them.

california born and raised. middle aged married fam never lived anywhere else. tbh don't want to. have saved and invested a goodly amount for retirement. why are we looking in tx,ms,la,ga,sc,nc,va,ky,ar to move? we're soft when it comes to winters, so the south is the spot. a third of it. the cost of real estate is reasonable in those states. two thirds of it.

real estate is so expensive here we hardly ever achieve our goals if we stay and almost always do if relocating. simple really.

I escaped Southern California to Virginia 11 years ago at the age of 50. The only drawback in Virginia, is 3 months of nasty summer humidity and if you live in the woods like me, me there are quite a few bugs. I would say winters aren't too bad, probably average 12-24 inches of snow a year where I am at.
The snow never accumulates, you rarely get consecutive storms and it is rare

to have too many straight days where it doesn't crack freezing and it starts melting. Been to most of those other places you listed except La, and Ga.
Been to Arkansas half a dozen times and it gave me the creeps. For the record I didn't stray too far off I-40. I grabbed breakfast at a Waffle House and I swear I was sitting in on a KKK meeting. Another trip I stopped at a mini market filling station, and ate at a McDonald's for lunch and it was like I was the only white person in that area. I thought I had traveled back to 1960, very segregated. They also have dry counties.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by how cliche

this is a post and run as there's not time to be anchored to the board in a back and forth. remiss for that. can't speak to any of the arguments put forth above. can only remark on personal circumstances and decisions in and around them.

california born and raised. middle aged married fam never lived anywhere else. tbh don't want to. have saved and invested a goodly amount for retirement. why are we looking in tx,ms,la,ga,sc,nc,va,ky,ar to move? we're soft when it comes to winters, so the south is the spot. a third of it. the cost of real estate is reasonable in those states. two thirds of it.

real estate is so expensive here we hardly ever achieve our goals if we stay and almost always do if relocating. simple really.

I asked a guy who moved from Sacramento to a Houston suburb why he moved. He said his wife wanted to own a house and have kids.

He was born n raised in California along w his wife. They live in a 4 bed 3200 sq foot place in north Houston now. 2 kids. He paid 195k for the house about 7 yrs ago. He told me the same house in Sacramento would be over a million, and probably 1.5 mil.