*Handicapping Methods-Spot Play Testing-Software Etc

[NorCalGreg]

Originally Posted by timtam

You guys are proving my point. With exotics one time its prime, next time its

ability. Then if you mix half of prime with ability and divide by trainer/jockey

and multiply this and subtract that YOU GOT IT. And soon another method

is coming out. You make a cynical post about some guy who hits Penn Nat'l

a track I cut my teeth on and I'm supposed to be impressed?

I had the 6 horse today at Belmont and was happy about it , it was a daymaker

I use your program everytime I go to the track and I'm doing ok I always

check the hotlist etc. but Race 7 was won by Thirstforthecup the 1A not

Stay Fond which was on the ability list. Just sayin .....

Almost every post you've ever posted here has been negative.

That wasn't a "cynical" post--that guy has every program I've ever made.

Let me let you in on a secret, smart guy....The purpose of me telling all who will listen....and spending big bucks to advertise...is to SELL MY PROGRAMS. Many customers think they got their money's worth--and then some. If you don't, well I'm sorry--but you contacted me to buy my programs---3 if I remember correctly.

If this thread is upsetting you--simply don't read it.

...just sayin'

*okay your off my mailing list--you'll never hear from me again unless you choose to--NCG

[Fred Mertz]

I think tim tam should buy this hole in the wall.

https://insiderlouisville.com/busine...close-tuesday/

He won the Kentucky Derby in 1958.

[timtam]

LOL I like that one

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by timtam

You guys are proving my point. With exotics one time its prime, next time its

ability. Then if you mix half of prime with ability and divide by trainer/jockey

and multiply this and subtract that YOU GOT IT. And soon another method

is coming out. You make a cynical post about some guy who hits Penn Nat'l

a track I cut my teeth on and I'm supposed to be impressed?

I had the 6 horse today at Belmont and was happy about it , it was a daymaker

I use your program everytime I go to the track and I'm doing ok I always

check the hotlist etc. but Race 7 was won by Thirstforthecup the 1A not

Stay Fond which was on the ability list. Just sayin .....

I'm pretty sure Greg has been very good about giving people their money back (within reason and within a fair amount of time) who weren't satisfied with his products.

So I'm not really sure what the point of your many posts here is...if you don't like the programs and they aren't working out for you, stop using them. And if you're able to get a refund, ask for it.

[JeffH]

Just to clear things up, after scratches, the Horizontal Report had the following at Belmont:

Race 7) 2-4-1A-7 (4)
Race 8) 6-7 (2)
Race 9) 13 (1) =$8 bet

The results were as follows:

Race 7) 1A $34.20
Race 8) 6 $17.40
Race 9) 13 $5.70

$ 1 Pick 3 paid $918.00

I get the point that you can go back and make almost any race a winning one with all of the spot plays, angles, etc. My point is to pick a couple of them that you like and stick with them. No, you won't win everyday; but nothing out there is going to do that (regardless of the price of the software).

Even if you don't bet the pick 3, there are 2 nice win tickets readily available.

[timtam]

Dear Pace Advantage,

Have you read my last post? I said I take the sheets to my OTB everyday

I complimented the fact I hit the 6 horse at Belmont for $17. I never said

his stuff wasn't any good. It was a little constructive criticism and I'm

off his mailing list I think it is good advertising if dyed in the wool

users are in fact using your product.

[NorCalGreg]

Originally Posted by timtam

Dear Pace Advantage,

Have you read my last post? I said I take the sheets to my OTB everyday

I complimented the fact I hit the 6 horse at Belmont for $17. I never said

his stuff wasn't any good. It was a little constructive criticism and I'm

off his mailing list I think it is good advertising if dyed in the wool

users are in fact using your product.

"You guys are proving my point. With exotics one time its prime, next time its

ability. Then if you mix half of prime with ability and divide by trainer/jockey

and multiply this and subtract that YOU GOT IT. And soon another method

is coming out. You make a cynical post about some guy who hits Penn Nat'l

a track I cut my teeth on and I'm supposed to be impressed?"

That's constructive criticism?

[bruin95]

Originally Posted by NorCalGreg

Do me a favor and download your program before the link expires, my software shows you haven't d'ld it yet.

EXOTIC BETS ABILITY late pick-3 ---3x3x3

1,5,7/2,4,6/1,2,13

Sorry. I was just looking at the horses names and not the program numbers. The entry won the first leg and wasn't paying attention that the "other" 1 horse was listed in the ability picks.

[TJC]

Greg,

Allow me to offer an explanation on this pick 3. It appears to me that it depends on which data file is used.

I just loaded Belmont for today and scratched the horses that did not run per the results chart. None of the 4 horizontal methods had all of the winners in the pick 3. I used the Brisnet MultiCaps date file. I am going to guess that your picks were made using the DRF file from Brisnet. I have noticed previously that when you have posted selections here that the .drf file has been used. (see posts 3306 and 3296 for examples)

I think that this explains the difference in the selections. We should look to see which file you are using before we question the results.

TJC

[NorCalGreg]

Glad you got your program, bruin muh man


-Got the early pick-3 COLD....

Belmont $20 //

-book it

Gonna try something here for a change--

I'll look around to find a pick-3 somewhere with some longshots in the sequence
3X3X3 = $27.00
Starting Bankroll is $540....that will insure I have at least
20 plays before busting out - if I don't hit anything.
There is a decent chance of that happening....as anyone who's played exotics knows all too well.
I'm looking at plays with longshots--because I want that big money----because I'm a big money kind of guy

I let my money do my talking--me and my $540 bankroll--well now $513.00-pending

Here we go-----pick-3 starting 3rd race Santa Anita

[JeffH]

I always use the drf file for the programs.

[green80]

Originally Posted by NorCalGreg

"You guys are proving my point. With exotics one time its prime, next time its

ability. Then if you mix half of prime with ability and divide by trainer/jockey

and multiply this and subtract that YOU GOT IT. And soon another method

is coming out. You make a cynical post about some guy who hits Penn Nat'l

a track I cut my teeth on and I'm supposed to be impressed?"

That's constructive criticism?

You can sell a guy a powersaw, that doesn't mean he can build a house. The same with handicapping software, you have to know something about what you are doing before it helps.

I am now a fan of the ponypicker software and the 1-2-3 method. Just yesterday at CD, it had 2.80,7.60,7.40,6.40,7.40 and 9.00 winners on the 10 race card. Hard to figure a way to not make money with results like that. Been getting similar results at certain tracks, you just have to figure out the tracks it works well on.

[NorCalGreg]

Originally Posted by green80

You can sell a guy a powersaw, that doesn't mean he can build a house. The same with handicapping software, you have to know something about what you are doing before it helps.

I am now a fan of the ponypicker software and the 1-2-3 method. Just yesterday at CD, it had 2.80,7.60,7.40,6.40,7.40 and 9.00 winners on the 10 race card. Hard to figure a way to not make money with results like that. Been getting similar results at certain tracks, you just have to figure out the tracks it works well on.

Thank you, TJC.

There were similar 1-2-3 results yesterday @ GPX, greenie....almost all the horses either won or ran 2nd.

The maddening part? 1-2-3 is doing horrible @ Belmont. Speed doesn't seem to be a reliable factor up and down the card. Having said that----ROMAN APPROVAL was the top E-1 (the screen E-1--not the button) by a mile.

If anyone has Belmont figured out--please let me know....I'm stumped.

[NorCalGreg]

Originally Posted by NorCalGreg

Glad you got your program, bruin muh man


-Got the early pick-3 COLD....

Belmont $20 //

3rd race #2 was scratched...making my cold pick-3 a cold double

6️⃣-5️⃣ ---if lucky it may pay $4

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by NorCalGreg

3rd race #2 was scratched...making my cold pick-3 a cold double

6️⃣-5️⃣ ---if lucky it may pay $4

3rd race #2 was a MTO, which shouldn't have been factored unless race came off the turf...